19 continues this week to Semi Final 4. On 5 life and keep up the days with the Rugby Union we keep costs down on b.b.c. Sam's. This is a point I don't 5 love and also not a violent coming up in this hour of the program it will bring in what we think is likely to happen this week involvement anything could happen as you know we're trying to guide you through what you should be watching out for in any case or hear about the longest nonstop commercial passenger flight which has landed successfully in Sydney after 19 hours direct from New York was Peet's one of the passengers quite interesting on this one because. Human necessity measures safety measures if you like add to be taken as a result of this I will hear about the. Dish forces in northeast Syria who have been pulling out of the border town of Ras al-Ain because of the Turkish military they will get the week's news from Brazil where months of the things they will not relishing the idea of Bragg's who will tell you why later on it's going to cost them do you remember in an hour's time from Monday morning u.s. Politics for him were talking about the president versus Congress who really runs America and who should run American into who makes America great again 1st said the government says it's pressing ahead with efforts to get a break sit deal passed this week in parliament despite Boris Johnson having been forced to send a letter to Brussels asking for another delay number 10 said the prime minister sent Parliament's let's a parliament letter to Brussels which was unsigned and accompanied with a 2nd letter which was signed explaining why the prime minister believed to delay would be a mistake labor however have said that it will back moves to put. To a referendum Meanwhile the European Council president will test will spend the next few days canvassing your leaders on whether they want to offer another bridge to delay or not the 1st century Dubnyk Rob said he was confident enough that M.P.'s would back the deal with banks who would still happen by the deadline Paula Keaveney is program leader for Politics at Edgehill university man I asked her if we have any idea what the coming week may bring so many things that could actually happen oh we've got got the Queen's Speech votes coming up at the end of the debate on the Queen's speech then the vote is normally a formality but if possible the government would lose sight of that going to table that withdrawal bill but then there's going to be all sorts of amendments table to that and it's up to the speaker which amendments are accepted and then they'll have to be a decision made about the timing of the debates on the bill on us and nothing that could be amended or affected by opposition m.p. So the show tells us your question is is completely unpredictable at the moment. We any clarity on if we will leave. Next week because we're scheduled to do according to the government what I think is looking very very unlikely because the business with the deal we have to have a deal if outing a deal with the e.u. The e.u. Has to accept it and the European Parliament has to accept it as well and there's a limited number of opportunities for the European Parliament to do that so if the opportunity of this week is missed We're bumping into November anyway and certainly I think it's highly unlikely that the amount of legislation that needs to be processed can be got through between now and the protest of up it's a handful of days isn't it and you know what we're seeing really from Opposition M.P.'s at the moment is that there's an increasing willingness to table amendments for example on having a 2nd referendum on a customs union and this it all takes time. But the government keeps insisting that we are going to leave the most obvious is you 1st. Well I'm the government has to insist on it and I think if I was both Johnson I would be thinking. If we don't leave then people have seen me siting on land determined to leave I won't be blamed for that the people who will be blamed will pay Paul a month will be opposition and pace so I'm Chile I still maintain my position of taking this out of the European Union and then when I go into an election people will say that I've been standing out for the referendum on the problem is caused by all these other people. The next election whenever it is cold it will be listen more than that election that referendum if you like well I suspect the housework is being hopeful but the problem with saying is that the 4 Tories and I wanted in 27 change remember when she called the election a really it was to sort out Rex It's not seemed very sensible until all these other issues started popping up so I don't think we can find a even at this stage that this election will be just about Bracks it but I think it will be more about Bracks it than previously and even walleye it will be a pile this business of what people want to what people get siloed the conservatives will be thinking we're going to go into this election cycle we well we want to deliver what you all saw look at these are the parties that are stopping that will be the law and that's what we will be about bricks it but it will be multiplying out this people versus Paul of an issue is in a way and this might be a completely stupid question so full Francis that me down but. I'm used to it believe me way that the government can simply say I'll say. Because the chief has symbolically at least we've left the European Union but it's just some not some balls to get through assume. The practicality all the specific. Obligations to get through before we leave otherwise but essentially spiritually symbolically we've left that that could be the p.r. Message and there were 2 The fact is even if almost 31st that everything had been done there would still be negotiating trade agreements for the next 2 or 3 years so whenever. Assuming we leave whenever we do believe there will be more to do so the government can always make that all 2 months Chile we've really done materialize it's signed sealed and many delivered so I actually we can all celebrate all commiserate this has happened so I suspect I could use that message I don't think Boris don't that is why our age about date shifting as people would have us believe offing he has a very clear message which is that he is the one standing up for this and it is all the people who are slowing him down and I actually the more he gets obstacles thrown in his why the more he gets like them the stronger his actual message becomes so this is why I think he will keep repeating he will keep repeating the state and of course I'm not asking you had to look in a crystal ball that is ever shifting ever shifting for every hour let alone every day. When the most likely time that we will see generally let you cool oh don't you know I wish if I find you that will be dems the book Mike is tomorrow let me tell you that So here are the issues about me General Election 2 ways it can be called. A vote of no confidence in the Commons which that and then a 2 week delay was no government being formed or a large vote by all the M.P.'s to say let's have an early election the s.m.p. a Talking about table is a vote of no confidence this coming week if there is something to justify that trouble is that it's not big enough group to to win a vote they need to have all the opposition parties on their side and some some of the conservatives that are abstaining or with them for the for that to work such a lot depends on whether the time is right for a vote of no confidence all whether the Labor Party says actually you know or ought we just want an election now anyway we will agree with you Boris Johnson let's have a positive for a general election I think with some Why all 5 of them are because there is a strong argument coming through the there should be an attempt to get a referendum before an election is called I'm not tempt hasn't been made yet again this is just one more quick point on this you said the. Scorsese national party able a motion if there is cause to table a motion of no confidence why wouldn't the subpool of the conservatives even if the Conservatives have to say we have no confidence in this general in this government 30 just to trigger the Let should because that's what the conservatives would use well they would speak it would be very amusing to see that happen and they could in theory do that but under the 6 Tempah limit sign if there's a vote of no confidence there is then a 2 week period. To allow one of the government to be formed the full there is not Chilean election in that's what the conservative. To be wired about was if they do that then in that 2 week period you might suddenly find promised to call Ben all prime minister somebody else they don't like forming a government so that was what they would be Walid about or the conservatives want is a pall over to if faute fall an early election all the votes of no confidence because that creates a problem for them the problem that the s.n.p. Faces here is that unless there is agreement with by all the Opposition policy is. On a vote of no confidence it would just not go through and the trouble with that is you can't keep doing it on she thought it wants and it's not work it's almost impossible to do it soon soon afterwards so they really need to take the time if they want to do anything in some surprise. Well Art I've just things happen and I say I've never seen that before it's shocking and then something even more shocking happened so I find it almost impulse football now to be clear about what's going to happen in the way to head off saying a lot of you know I'm very hostile to politics a lot of pain a lot of shocking things but frankly the last 2 weeks it's impossible to to. It's impossible to see and think of anything Moshe looking and till the next shocking thing happens gotta say this is a fossil much time to be starting politics statistics show that the number of young people applying to study politics at university is going up so clearly that there is a growing interest in the subject now that and I think that's good because we do need our citizens to understand what on earth going on a pool key need a program to do for politics you know. And. It is a fascinating time to talk politics us politics straight after 2 o'clock 5 live if you've got any questions for us politics eggs made some food free to text them from now on 8558 a pool nights have b.b.c. Dog join us in about 40 minutes for the phone in 885909693 is us if you got a question for them now might be able to answer then feel free to take from now Ok the longest non stop commercial passenger flight has landed successfully in Sydney the conses plane took just over 9 c. Now is to fly direct from New York the airline is considering whether to begin regular nonstop flights between the cities and it's enlisted the help of university researches to find out how such a long flight affects passengers and crew and enjoy says the c.e.o. Of Qantas this is part of our projects on Ryan's And this is the 1st trade test flights that's going to come up with recommendations there how we manage pilot fatigue how we actually manage passenger jet lag and after a night in hours on the flight I think we've gotten this right what was it like I've been speaking to someone who was on the plane Ben. Is senior aviation edits a chav a website the points guy he's currently in Sydney at the end of his marathon flight and he told me what it was like just certainly wouldn't be confused with any normal long flight that a passenger might be on for starters there are only $49.00 t. People on the plane and that includes the pilots the flight attendants working so we had a lot of space on the plane it was a fairly civilized experience I know a lot of people and magine being stuck in the in the last row of economy and that's a flight but that wasn't the case here was a chance flight but that said. Let me tell you 1000 hours and 60 Minutes is the Dorrance test no matter how nice or spacious your seating area is not least for the parted Saucony beds and what did they have to go on a road show for that what they did is they had a crew of 4 who was working the plate and they would take they would alternate between a works period and an arrest period and you're one of the things they were able to show us on this flight was actually the rest area where the crew sleep and that's actually pretty interesting you might you might even know where someone was joking or they could almost be confused with the Japanese posh hotel from the amount of space that the pilots have to sleep behind the cockpit so they the aircraft is ready for the long haul flights but I think that the challenge for you know for everyone the pilots that I talk to on the plane to they're just kind of used to it it's part of the job you know you know how it goes and you figure out a way to make it work because that's what you do how much sleep did you manage to get out of the store and you know. I got 3 solid hours of sleep and then I was kind of awake and tossing and turning for about 4 hours I slept part of the 4 hours so I would say 3 solid hours of sleep and then I'm not sure how to rest so I I was having. I was feeling that after we lay out that there's just no 2 ways around that well but when you feel. You know on a flight it's kind of interesting on these particular flight because I'm there as a journalist so you're working but there's also a fair amount of excitement because it's a unique experience so on the flight it was a mix toward the end especially was a mix of adrenaline from from working on kind of the overall excitement and then realizing well I've been on this plane for 17 hours 18 hours 19 hours and it starts you know starts to take its toll on you then after landing in Sydney you know the goal is you land here at 8 am I had a little bit of work to do but. Try to make it up as late as you can so that. You're not falling asleep or 2 in the afternoon only to wake up at 2 in the morning and I thought how manage to make it to 11 30 pm but I was rough I was tired by concentration was shot and. I left I was there myself which is probably good but I'm helpless and I will be here found by the end of the day. Just because the suffering from what you know would we be able to describe it is jet lag you know I think that's probably what all call up but I think real wait for the day that I landed here on Sunday I think that's just you know reality that's just being tired after a very long flight and the part that you might want to say jetlag is just being discombobulated from being so off your time zone your sadness 13 hours different from the u.s. East Coast where I'm from so that's what you notice but I think the real component of Jetlag is really going to come 3648 hours after flight where you're kind of grounded in your new time zone but you're rhythms from where you came from are still kind of fighting to take over so whereas you might be feeling like you're having a normal day but all of a sudden at 3 in the afternoon you get hit with this wave of tiredness you just want to sleep or converse late which I was argue is even worse where maybe it's 2 in the morning and you're wide awake like you've just gotten up for work and had your morning of stress so those are the things that I think really was or what jetlag is what are the heart of like those things that come 364860 hours after you land at your destination and you're just fighting your body clock. To figure out which times are near actually m. To the end didn't try to mitigate some of the impact on your body a mind of knowing to know Judy for example the last. 9 pm. And that was deliberate was it yes so if that is a good time to leave the East Coast if you can do a nonstop flight which of course is the 1st one that's a good time to leave it's 1 pm they're kind of what normally you would do is put you on an overnight flight so you would kind of get on on the plane have your dinner and go to sleep but they took a different approach but that's not part of the experiment so we got on the lighter as bright as they could be they served us that general but it was a a spicy dinner and that was served with your t.v. Or coffee and it was tried to really they were trying to keep you awake for the 1st 67 hours of the flight because that kind of corresponded with Sydney time and in Sydney you're getting on the plane around noon. 3rd goal is really to keep you up as way into the Sydney evening as they could the idea being that from the 2nd you stepped on the plane you're in Sydney time zone or at least something close to it so stay awake for 7 hours in 234 in the morning local time was a little tough but I have to say it did make it easier for me once I only had it in Sydney and you're right during the flight they had group exercises for some of the test passengers who were for on the flight I was not involved I was not being tested but I was talking with those who were having the tests done and they're the exercise is meant to just stay healthy keep your blood circulating on such a long flight but. There are exercises is there a way good in general and the theory of Earth Day helps to mitigate the effects of jet lag once you actually make it to your destination. That's been months about who's the senior vacation at it's the travel website the points guy and listening to that was carry patch carry Pods forgive me professor. Of the University of California Santa Cruz and specializes by the way studies insecure rhythms which basically means that you can explain the science behind the jetlag doesn't it professor. I hope. Well us Acadian rhythms to start over so circadian rhythms arise fundamentally within every cell in your body and in doing so what they do is cordon ate a daily rhythm of about 24 hours times behavior in physiology from your head to your toes and so we know from many studies that when a light disrupts circadian rhythms such as what you'd see in jetlag I love Ben's description that it makes you feel discombobulated right so it leads to a decent going to say sion of clocks in your body an inability to not synchronize but the light environment where you've landed after a long flight and is that how your body's affected by traveling through different time zones Absolutely it really goes beyond just a lack of sleep although that's certainly a profound and painful experience to stay awake at night but it also influences many aspects of the physiology in your body from your metabolism and your cardiovascular function to the synthesis of hormones so it really has a quite a wide ranging impact on your health. I'm sure you've heard the old SUV men and women were meant to fly God would have given them wings and yet we meant to fly only does it matter if a cicada cicada rhythms don't soon with that fly is it really matter well but there are many studies showing that a lack of synchronization between your internal clock in your environment which is best described as jetlag that actually has pretty profound health impacts and that's mostly been noted in shift workers who kind of put themselves under the situation as a part of their work with that being said there is hope for us we know that light has a powerful effect in synchronizing our internal clocks and so it sounds like this cloud just what I really used late to their advantage to try and begin the process of adjusting internal clocks with the environment by keeping it brightly lit for example at night the passengers were told to set their watches to Sydney time after boarding and they were kept awake on tonight. At least Night felonies in Australia what impact will this have on the. Well I like it's a step in the right direction I'd say so by setting your walk to watch just any time and beginning to live you know in a sort of future time zone you begin the process of adjustin