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This is all 4 I don't 5 Live on Dawson at a boy income not in this hour of the program in a budget would get the latest from Kashmir where the Indian administration side is done with no good some of the Pakistani instruction sides on the other side if you like of the of the border also the man who is hunky dory and also do the accounts from David Bowie Mick Jagger and many more will hear about the longest nonstop commercial passenger flight landed successfully in Sydney and took over 19 hours to fly direct from New York as well also so permutations around that also would get a sense of just how badly jet lag in some cases night shift work affects the body. Has been heavy shelling across the Line of Control that separates Indian and Pakistani minister of Kashmir but shards of blame to each other for the escalation in firing which is seen soldiers killed on both sides let's get more from up on. It's rolled to the Line of Control separates Indian administered Kashmir from Pakistan administered Kashmir remember both these nuclear powers lay claim on the valley though if you go there as I have on many occasions many many it would tell you that actually they are quite fed up of both countries what we often see is firing and we've seen that over the course of the last few months particularly since India decided to remove the autonomy remove Article 370 from its part Indian administered Kashmir that really led to an increase in tension in the area a lockdown in the area and an increase in tensions between both countries I think what is significant over the past 24 hours is we've seen some of the heaviest shelling taking place for quite some time now some are calling it the deadliest day it's very difficult to be able to accurately say how many people may have died in the shelling because both sides give very very different figures in very different stories about what's actually taking place but I think it's fair to say that over the past 24 hours we could have seen at least 9 people being killed because of the shelling with that will mean that people who live near the borders across the Line of Control will as they've had to do on other occasions before flee their house and I think the world will be extremely concerned in this evening and in the early hours of the morning about rising conflict over a disputed region that is seen so many wars between 2 nuclear powers indeed there is there has been some strong comments from the Indian army chief was here to see. Yes there has been some very strong comments from him I think you also have to take into account at the moment the the timing of where we are because we're heading towards the winter that means that the past that many people can move between what India would say would be some of the terrorists who enter Indian administered Kashmir will begin to get shut down soon so this is always a very crucial Emirate and time in that area but let's hear now what the Indian army chief. Has been saying we have picked up some definitive information that. Some of the. Not of the been active. In these camps. And that they are likely to infiltrate last evening an attempt was made in the in which we did so for all of us soldiers getting killed one civilian all for died and all this was to ensure that they can push on leaders Pakistani army both worlds will bear the brunt of reaction and as of now the information that we have. 6 to 10 Pakistani soldiers have been killed it's very important to say that is the Indian side of the story the Pakistani army they released a statement saying that that's not the case at all that actually 5 civilians and only one Pakistani soldier has been killed so as we said at the beginning it's difficult to verify the information and both sides keep saying that shelling was responsible the other party started it and we've killed more soldiers of them as they killed of ours which I think tells you that so much of this is about domestic consumption. Is there a risk though that this could escalate I think there is doubt and I mean earlier this year we had India and Pakistan almost on the verge of war where we saw India launching strikes inside Pakistan we saw an Indian pilot being held by the Pakistanis and I think if you look at what is. Happened over the course of this year has been one of the most tense times between these 2 countries and there is always that possibility that is the shelling increases as the deaths on both sides increase that it could escalate and I think if you look at what's happened over the last couple of years we seem to be in a much more tense situation between these 2 countries that then then there was previously the shelling last year across the line of the control was the heaviest for 15 years I think that's going to be replaced by the shelling this year so there are such a number of global problems that people are having to deal with politicians are trying to deal with but it seems that India and Pakistan could be heading quite close to was the top of that agenda once again routes and in the longest nonstop commercial passenger flight has landed successfully in Sydney the Qantas plane took just over 19 hours to fly westbound direct from New York the airline is considering whether to begin regular nonstop flights between the cities and it's enlisted the help of university researches to find out how such a long flight effects passages in crew well carry taught in the associate professor at the University of California Santa Cruz Cruz and she specializes in molecular studies did rhythms which basically means she can explain the science behind a starts of what. Rhythms so circadian rhythms arise fundamentally within every cell in your body and in doing so what they do is cordon ate a daily rhythm of about 24 hours to times behavior in physiology from your head to your toes and so we know from any studies that when a light disrupts circadian rhythms such as what you'd see in jetlag I loved and description that it makes you feel discombobulated right so it leads to a decent going to zation of clocks in your body an ability to not synchronized but to let environment where you've landed after a long flight and is that how your body is affected by traveling through different time zones. Absolutely it really goes beyond just a lack of sleep although that's certainly a profound and painful experience to stay awake at night but it also influences many aspects of the physiology in your body from your metabolism and your cardiovascular function to the synthesis of hormones so it really has a quite a wide ranging impact on your health I'm sure you. Did see if men and women were meant to fly God would have given them wings and yet we meant to fly only does it matter if. Cicada rhythms don't to mean with fly is it really meant. Well but there are many studies showing that a lack of synchronization between your internal clock in your environment which is best described as jetlag that actually has pretty profound health impacts and that's mostly been noted in shift workers who kind of put themselves under the situation as a part of their work with that being said there is hope perhaps we know that light has a powerful effect in synchronizing our internal clocks and so it sounds like this clock just really used late to their advantage to try and begin the process of adjusting internal clocks with the environment keeping it brightly lit for example at night the passengers were told to set their watches to Sydney after boarding and they were kept awake on tonight. At least Night felonies in Australia what impact will this have on the. Well I like it's a step in the right direction I'd say so by setting your walk to watch just any time and beginning to live you know in a sort of future time zone you begin the process of adjusting to the new times and sadly we know that it takes quite a bit longer than that to ingest at the molecular level so the rule of it's about that you can adjust to about one time zone for every. For every day that you've been there so like Ben mentioned it often takes 567 or even more days to fully adjust to local time so what the Qantas flight has done is just started that in a sense by having everybody behave as though there is any time and it's bought everybody about a day of advance and the passengers and crew were mounted to do this test fly what was what was the side says to the looking out for and monitoring them. Not sure of the exact details I wasn't associated directly with the study but it's typically found that we can monitor really simple physiological patterns like blood pressure that exhibits a circadian pattern where it's lower in our biological night time and higher during the day so simply getting readouts of things like body temperature and blood pressure lets us know what you're in trouble timing is so I'm guessing they measured that the other thing that's really common and at least amongst pilots is to measure cognitive performance and reaction times right because we know that after we stayed awake all night or if we're trying to work late at night that we auction Afton have poor cognitive function and our reaction times are blended and you don't. Prefer. A dance the Macarena. I have not I'm sorry I know it sounds like a silly girl just wondering if the dog SUV America. Has any use if it does any good you know I'm going to say that that not only would it be good but it actually might help you in train your clock so many people are shown that time restriction of exercise in other words exercising when your biological clock is in its daytime mode that can actually help to synchronize clocks as well so by waking everybody up and having them synchronize their dancing on Sydney time they match Lee helping train mit. You did mention the shift workers as well as similar is a 19 hour flight to work shift workers on the go were night workers in particular. But I don't know that it's so much the length of the flight rather than the shift in time zone and with a 12 or 13 hour shift in time zone it's basically like inverting your daytime for night time and this is often what we see for people who work shift work in that rather than getting up at 6 in the morning and heading into work they may get up at 6 pm and head to work and so in that aspect shift work is quite similar to the time difference that these travelers are feeling so it's no good for oil 36. Yeah I hate you know I hate to be doom and gloom but I know the World Health Organization has recently as a circle years ago listed shiftwork as a probable carcinogen and because it just wraps circadian rhythms and the sort of time cues that keep tumor cells from growing. Any good news for the shift really because it's over anything but for example you know we might benefit from hearing over and over never never never never again about what's going on in our parliament with regards to Briggs. Well that's you know being out of the news cycle is one positive benefit I guess. The positive news that we have right now is that there's you know many people in our field who are working on it how to use light better manipulate clocks and there's hope that we can use these fast easy and very cheap sort of tools to help people align their circadian rhythms better so there's a serious question from the examples you've given from from this or at least from what you can. From the experiment this 90 now like experiment the lessons that we can do is not work is it shift work because for example I imagine one of them is to do some exercise was where the night shift is. Absolutely yeah I would say exercise and eating when you're active so for you shift workers at night that that will be having practiced lunch and dinner at night instead of during the day those are things that can help and then finally as I've mentioned already late is just this very powerful cue for a body and so there's just a phrase that's commonly used in our field that you want to have a good light. Maybe those are 2 words people have put together but the idea of getting bright light when you're in your active phase and dimming light when you're supposed to be in your restful can really help to promote strong circadian alignment with the environment as Professor carry. The University of California Santa Cruz know about one or 2 of you thought I'd lost the plot. If you could does accurately. Sensibly I thought you know it's so important all these things are important when you're 19 hour flight apparently government ministers say that they didn't mean to for. Head with efforts to get Boris Johnson's brags who plan approved by parliament even though he's had 2 hours Brussels to extend the departure deadline Michael Gove has told 5 Live that he's stepping up preparations for a no deal Briggs's because there's no guarantee the new will grow in the u.k. Another extension Labor's says it will back moves to put the deal to a referendum so who so much uncertainty about what the coming few weeks will bring How are e.u. Nationals over here preparing Stanislav scuzz Inskeep is from the potage newspaper is 80 via Bush owes which has been asking polls living in the u.k. If they're applying to stay in this country certainly some people are because of. Deciding to move there but it's not only because of breaks it breaks it isn't that sort of an excuse also many people who move here. Have it's feeling that they when they when they were leaving Poland it was temporary for the time being and and so many of them were waiting for a moment to go back to see helpful and it's after the old is years and yes so so I think I think it's you know a bit of an overstatement. But yet only just over a quarter of toadies people living here have applied for a settled status how do we explain them. Well I think that Poles are waiting most of them are just way think if they will have to to to to apply for it at all because you know what's happening at winds because there is hardly helping all these calls for registering for the applying for the settled status so I think it's mostly were well once once breaks it will be a fact it will change a locked away had an article around in the box a couple this this week it was written by a former Polish press agency is correspondent in the u.k. Crowbar and the article was titled breaks it will happen in days which was an call to action and well basically on the day because it was printed in this weekend's edition So basically on the day over publication this article was out of date so I think that's the that's the reason the poles are are not true applying for several starters they're just waiting for fall for it of all to be set them and want it while and they still have quite a lot of time to do it. You say that but as far as I remember from our last conversation hasn't the Polish embassy itself been going out telling Polish people resident embrace him go on apply if you'll settle status a.s.a.p. Yes I mean everyone saying that we are you know there is never enough of telling people to do it because you know even if brags it will be either in the article that there will be revoke that or whatever it will hardly. Damage things but I think people are just you know for fair as they are while potholes have quite poor experiences with paperwork and with their country so they are quite reluctant to. Do any think if they if it's that's not really necessary and they ar