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And this is teaching about different types of families same sex parenting same sex relationships. But if you flip that 60 percent of parents do not have a problem with it and the research comes from Stonewall which is the charity for lesbian gay bi and transit quality and they champion the findings and they remind us that back in 20172 in 5 L. G.B.T. Pupils were never taught about these issues at school and many were being bullied because they were being themselves so we live in a different era don't we it Bernie there's been major problems where one school parents have been protesting for months about teaching same sex relationships having 2 mommies having 2 daddies and the fact that 2 people the same sex can have that relationship but what about you is it OK to teach primary school children about L G B T inclusion and if that were your child that would be OK wouldn't it so you can call it a free phone number 180389 double 3 double 3 and if you are a plus Q Whatever trans Were you bullied at school because of it and that made a big impact on your life. You can tweet away at B.B.C. Of course drop me a tax text. And start your message with a text a standard message rate see our previous. Case slash radio previously radio. City Shelton is head of the education programs at Stonewall the charity and she's joining us now on the big phone in hand I said have a. Great thank you Harry I'm very well I've got a couple of friends that women who are in a same sex relationship and they've adopted a little girl and they said very recently they still felt uncomfortable at the school gates. And I thought that that was actually really sad and that's in a fairly liberal progressive parts of the county really honest I'm not sure we've had a breakthrough just yet a you. Think we've got a long way to go yet by still think it's important to the back record live how far we have come and I think that the feeling of your friends there and the same sex parents across the country really or anybody with. Families and parents who are taking their kids to school is the legacy of Section $28.00 is the idea that talking about the burden and that was only repealed Well 2003 so this piece of research that shows public attitudes is really encouraging and shows a lot on the right way to talk about people weak sisters our families exist. Less unusual and we can go on with what we were there in school to do which is learn I'm not questioning your research done by itself Mari but. Lobbying for that awareness and all that goes with it so the survey would say that wouldn't. The parents of would be quite happy for a primary school child to learn about same sex relationships. Well it was a survey of the general public so that that includes parents but what I think was very interesting as well is that 16 to 24 year olds about 60 percent to said that they also agreed to that young people who were there then try to go to BT or not whether they grew up they tend to identify as such you also really want this kind of education information to help them well support their friends and be better citizens I guess it is a contentious issue in the middle and as we've been know we've been watching this going on in Birmingham and whenever I've talked about they suck at parents calling or texting or to eating and they'll say that child doesn't pass an islet you know they might have a trans gendered child in the class or. A family with same sex parents and the child just accept it as normal it's usually the attitude and the horror of it comes from the parent not hold them clearly but the child the children I can do that. You're right children and young people are totally on board if you explain to a 5 year old that some people have to do to love each other very much not that kid is absolutely fine with it it's more. Special to our shows young people or parents or people have a role in young people's lives that. Fall to more how to find the right language and I think that is also like the Section 28 if you if we were never grazed in an area in an era where you could talk while she BT people families how would you have the confidence in the knowledge to use the words in the language yourself but there are so many beautiful children's books that make it really easy to Kerttu for parents and their carers but I also think young people themselves like the children's book and hunger makes 3 about adoption and 2 male gay penguins in New York City Zoo There's lots of really sweet stories like that but there will be parents. Individuals listening who have no problem with the sexuality of an individual but feel it is inappropriate for a whole range of reasons that might be linked to that faith that culture. Or just be something that they hold quite dear that they don't feel that child needs to have not laid out before them in a classroom and to be taught about it we have to respect that but because you can check out you can restore your child from these lessons and your own Can't you so you can withdraw your child from the sex part of the relationship in sex education but not the relationships of education and when the child gets there the young person gets to secondary school I think over 3 times before the young person 1016 parents are able to withdraw their child but they do have to speak to the school to explore what the implications might be what the impact might be for the young person themselves the truth is that by tackling them by talking about. L.G.B. To people if a relationship even exists in a family structures exist and a father this will help tackle the bullying that we know is happening in our schools and it's not just L.G.B. Teacher champ equal who experience homophobic by the counseling language any child is different Our research shows that to so by. Talking about these different family structures exist we have to earn our children young people for life. And that's why she was schools responsibility is today what is true but it's not always easy yeah and it's not the parent my talking. It's their responsibility it's not down to half is teaching those lessons it's their choice about what that child perceives the stones and is taught in school and clearly I understand what you are saying but does that parent have a right to in the same way if you're L.G.B. You have a right to be acknowledged because this is what this is about. Well all of the protective characteristics and the Equality Act are considered equal and I would say that we all have a right to learn about the diversity of the world in societies in which we live in and that's reflective of all of the communities that we keep on faith but also an L G B T that also L.G.B. To people of faith for example so where as a parent might want to choose when they have conversations about sex without children and young people I think acknowledging that there are different family structure deflation should not exist is fundamental if we also think about for example if you could hear people in school today to maybe identify already or might try to inspire that way it's really important they feel valid and that they feel the same to even if they just feel a little bit different because what they need to do in school is to study and to learn they don't need to worry about if they can experience going to being able to be Katie if they belong at school how other people see them we need to give them the best chance to just try. Thank you good to talk to you sit in a pattern Shelton she's head of education programs at the charity stonewall and with that to support. Same sex relationships and lesbian gay bi and trans equality so that survey says 60 percent of the people they spoke to think he's absolutely fine to teach Algy BT inclusion to your child in primary school that's about the relationships that there are 2 daddies 2 mommies Well there might be some one child. That blend of relationships. 40 percent of the people they spoke to said it was not are you in that category or does what Stone will believe and sits just outlined that make absolute sense it's a free phone number I weigh 20389 double 3 double 3 this is the big Byron in B.B.C. Radio late I'm Liz green it 18 minutes past 12. Everybody get. Me in the. So. Let's. Clear. This. Beautiful. At Sharon and beautiful people you know they are action Dolph. Ketchup bottle at Sharon house in the ads for charity and then Heinz never want to miss a trick. Brought us a limited edition bottles presumably with pictures of Ed Sheeran and tomato ketchup . 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Afternoon So if you've got a child in primary school how you doing about a bit relieved because they're back at school now but making the nice today is a survey that 40 percent of people asked would be very uncomfortable with that child being talk about same sex families same sex relationships a primary school this will become lore in September of next year you are able to withdraw a child if you wish but you've got to explain to the school what it is the sexual side of those relationships is not taught until secondary school. 60 percent of people who are asked had absolutely no problem with it so why are you on that divide and I know some of you in the past of me and said that this either a chance child or a family with same sex parents and another to a child just doesn't make any differentiation around it but of course if you've ever been bullied because of who you are you might feel very different name feel it's good to educate say you'll stories this afternoon 080389 double 3 double 3 is our number when he texts me it's a chuckle 3 you just type the word leads in 1st like keep any message I'll get it tweet me at B.B.C. . 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Minutes thank you very much and if you're stuck on that route. Good luck with you we'll keep you up to. 123 see. Talk later. This hour on the big. It's OK about what you think he's OK for your child a problem or scope to be tilts about when it comes to. Issues from a year exactly to the day September 20. 20 your child a primary school will be taught about same sex relationships 2 for moms 2 dots but the sexual past of those relationships where he talks about children secondary school survey out today from stone will says 40 percent of parents don't want this we've seen evidence of that in Birmingham where many families just do not feel it's appropriate whether it's for faith or cultural reasons and I lots of know what you think Lisa on the line from Keithley Hello Lee have. Hi Ira I am what do you think about this. Person may I add I don't disagree with same sex relationships I mean I have. Had people in my family but I don't believe should be. A parent choice and should be car I don't lessons go. President believe there are more important things to be taught and go as a life lesson but parents should be changing nach out and yet the argument is and could be that if you've got an L.G. BT or a gay or transgender child even at that age in a school that they're isolated and bullied and if people don't talk about it then they're ignorant of what's happening and that could lead to bullying and this is life and you would speak about that the same way as you would with a mummy and a daddy. And so my spec Yeah I mean I've got a 4 in Arrow the secondaries go out and I believe. In kids influenced by adults in a lot. Shelter I'm ecstatic spiders so if I for encounter a spider market they're going to know it's our influence there are not and then I will be satisfied as. If we teach kids at such an early age. Then it's going to influence. All the life yes what you know I was the man because this is just about education it's not is it about his a diagram going try that's not your your particular thing is that Were you worried about. I'm worried Yeah and now aspect Yeah yeah there are kids in this school now. And their guard down car and themselves out you've been there in those days. How can a kid decide I want to as a kid know that they're influenced by parents. Or trans how would they know that I said not lived a life that met and I know but did you know you were straight at 1413 I didn't have a close. But not quite That's not quite right good but you know dad in the eighty's it was not really spoke about but now this is the whole point of this I think that I do understand what you saying now is spoken about and acknowledged and laid out so that people understand who's who what's what and why. So that the should be some normalcy acceptance of it you're saying he's too young to do this no I don't Doug I'm right I do believe it should be done you know mistakes education it should be done everybody should know those things but it should be done in the last appearance of the secondary school not in the younger school all right thank you for your Colpitts to which he laid on the line from Keithley takes me right one triple 3 Start your message with the word leads to meet me at B.B.C. Lease Here's the number it's a free phone. Join the conversation. 809 doubles redoubles the Yorks your money in the B.B.C. Radio. Teach Algy BT inclusion to your child in primary school. And. Go to the right. I could. Let you know you can use to do just what I'm new to. As. You know if you know I'll. Be Riding a shark. Was shot in the. Salad you. Got to. Go to. See that. There's some good. News you. See. And so. You know. I'll be. So. Are you. Being serious. Here C B M B. 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We're talking about a survey that's out today that says 40 percent of chill of parents are not happy with the idea of a child that child in primary school being taught about relationships inclusion family relationships and the and all the variance in last school and it is about relationships at that age the other side of education sexual side comes in secondary school 60 percent think it's OK is it all right listening and he has to say what she thinks he she is from Huddersfield a world renowned. If a television film theater and radio and she believes in authenticity every which way how. Oh how you thank you I just had to leave. Wasn't being in any way and. Just thinks as a parent too young to bring this into the curriculum for a kid in primary s