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A red upside down from the take pride of place so much very much like Paris with my son Alex which feels like the main reason I will never forget the look of love and pride he gave me when he presented it to a car he made it a story all those years ago 4 o'clock breakfast back Monday morning. Like Good evening it's 5 past midnight look this is going to make good on the radio will tell you why there are so many great stories to talk about through the Sunday papers there's a lot of politics to talk about. A lot of time tonight for your calls only to wait 591613 the kids better because we've got 2 of our favorite paper of yours on to right now how much of the brain the curry the pig with is years they're good Hello Bahama adds even steven even craving Hello Edwina how you will I'm doing Ok And some people are going. To have done with the shadow secretary of state Tony Lloyd so much sorry for him. Thought he did really well someone just tweeted me and said I very rarely swear but I make an exception your kiss you. You are a 1st class bastard for the hottest job you've done on labor and especially Jeremy Corbin on your 5 live show tonight you can interrogate without art right bias as you just did and that's from someone that describes himself as Chrissy away pay I think Chrissy you need to get a bit respect for yourself does this mean you're going to believe that you're talking to an individual that's me doing my job and let me bring in some calls and that let's get your reaction 1st of all do you think that you think that Tony Lloyd did a good job and well I spent I tell me why Well just quickly I spoke to him just as he left the studio and he was very complimentary about you Stephen he thought you did a very good job you're a professional. Both mean to me and have a high level of respect for you but I think he said Howard Walt The challenge is awful labor in this election he took on those difficult questions and you put him under the microscope and I think he did pretty well in the circumstances wouldn't have been great if cabinet ministers had had the same opportunity to be grilled by you. Know about me tonight why don't you make it work 20 law instead tonight. I 99 you know it for many many isn't easy very nice bloke but he was not up to dating with I think the questions I thought you know about the fairly obvious ones to ask he is the shadow secretary of state for no the moment and one of the key things about Koeppen he says he's always been a friend of a Ira He has denied being a friend of the Ira But you know if they lie that. He wouldn't have denied they are being a friend of the I right when I was in parliament with them he was talking about a donation fee in a political party house where the British government I would point out have been. Rights right but he also attended memorials for Ira men who had been shot dead by they are by the essay I should say he the site that he took Stephen was always. They saw it to people who during the British papers disgraceful but I'm sure this guy is others who are saddened by that I just don't consider serious do not require that you should really reflect just like in the interview time I did when a let's refer to the interview that we played tonight you pick from it's very interesting and it was and it was from August 25th and Jeremy Corbin condemned all violence. So yeah but I mean he's not sure that's a platitude Oh sure we take notice but even in these times. Away with that sort of propaganda he has been a consistent opponent of violence and terrorism across the girls not. Show me Tony Blair Jonathan Powell Alastair Campbell were all talking to the sheen Fane there was. A huge number of politicians from the late eighty's to the early 2000 who worked Ok to get a peace process on the idea that Jeremy called Binns supports terrorism is a disgraceful thing he has told you on your part but it just shows you the absolute ridiculous buys that you have like you know let me bring in some no no you must have gotten a minute Steven I think I need to defend myself because I served in parliament with Cermak open for 14 years and he used to sit and listen to him making these sorts of speeches he does condemn violence of course he does but he condemns only one side of the design. And telling the rest of it is a platitude. It's really really are boring and the moment you start to put in question to before he became the Labor Party leader 2015 years before when he was still a backbencher almost unknown except. Well actually that that such a before he became the Labor Party late I think wasn't it then the whole thing went on tour in the summer then you find that his has realised that when Labor Party members are longstanding Labor Party members condemn him for exactly what I've just said you have to take that seriously and advocate to vote for the Conservative party you never being supporters of the Labor Party I'm going to you talk about supporting terrorism we have Margaret Thatcher friends and supporting Pinochet in Chile and he was a to state sponsored terrorist who pressed his happiness. Don't give me these that . So I don't want to hide but I do think in the interest of balance I don't need to point out to you something that you know when you're choosing not to say tonight which is that the British governments have been talking to the ira since the seventy's but this is a different thing from between because they're conservative I mean and now there is a huge difference between trying to get to the point we genuinely get peace and part of that whole process is trying to understand what is behind those people who support groups that are terrorists that's what's been happening that's has happened that's happened in South Africa I just happen to know that on and we have to be very glad that these Precious's have existed during on time that we can continue talking about all of this Stephen Biddle spreading state if I stay with. The Word of God No more obvious. But where the fuck you're right is a lot probably all of you want your I want God you know and so what are you saying Steve. By what you often call before we call them Bob you're buying a gnostic paper novel I love that I would like to follow that would be your pocket for going private very much why not. Because that's a really important point when you interview Boris Johnson or conservative politicians you don't ask them to condemn British atrocities in Northern Ireland you don't ask them to condemn loyalist atrocities because we assume you will be rightly assume that all politicians in our public life whether the conservative or Labor have a consistent record and stance of opposing terrorism and I just think you know desperate measures from the conservatives because if they were as we are some of the papers are suggesting for a landslide victory and a majority Conservative government they were would be putting the slurs propaganda weekend before there is even one saying that we are here to 1 o'clock. Helmick or had. I just want to say to actually interview. You like I was actually. I live I live. Local to so many lights only light is a very good. Local labor m.p. Is a very is a very decent mom and I don't believe for one minute that he agrees with or buys into a lot of the rhetoric or support Jeremy Corbin House and the opinion that Gemma Coburn has had over a number of years and I think Mr Lloyd certainly tried is best to defend the party line which of course he should do as a Labor m.p. But Chemmy Cool Beans defense of the Ira is indefensible and I come from a an area that is quite strongly Labor says that there's a strong labor Holland here and I can tell you that the people on the ground they do know they do not buy into Jeremy Colvin they do not buy into a defense of the ira they don't buy into it the sense of how much and has a lot of this isn't as as Mohamed says right wing propaganda this is just what people see. Out there as evidence well he's never he's never and Dos the ira he has not had. Time I didn't say he had what he said. He said to me ma'am and I didn't say that I said that he he has not condemned the Ira So it's kind of I'm going down here no he doesn't why don't why do have to be selective in terms of you know terrorism. I'm not being I'm not being inspected you are my friend no I couldn't I'm all violence why that is from my list all Republican Joan Collins consistent against welcome you don't tell me can you show me I mean can you show me I'm happy to be corrected if you can show me can you show me somewhere. Jeremy Corbin himself has gone and paid you to 2 British army forces that have. Any any forces like that that give that life in any conflict I don't think you can in time you want to I mean what relevance is that going to the idea that he suddenly supports terrorist groups. I mean are. We going to get. Suggestion that Jeremy suggest supports terrorist groups that. I know I know the interview tonight that we played from 2015 this clear the chairman Corbin was not prepared in the interview he was not ready to condemn specifically or a violence when I asked him to specifically do a show he chose which he had the entitlement to do James. And you have the entitlement to show you're not jam sure Damien right yeah he was then entitled dance or whatever way he did and you're entitled to return to it whatever waited one James in Wales you know happy tell me why. Hello champ. In the way you conducted valiant do tonight I can I just say to the young gentleman speak in payment for before I did you talking a load of tripe I happen to be old enough to remember Jerry Nikko been standin in a campaign against I thought it was the end The upon a dream in. In Africa and Mrs Currie that's with you there was a government that that had about him supported the apartheid regime in fact. My reset your called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. Jamie Coburn was a rested for standin in and saying he's no terrorist he's a freedom fighter no if you call it what Jenny I can tell him on a terrorist Well you know. You I'd be to Africa. And Stephen and I are going to like this but I'm sure you would agree my father was from Southern Ireland a passionate southern Irish gentleman my God Right up until the day eat and he would tell me of situations and in no with an island with Catholics would bond from job. Do you have any clue. What is exactly the c m. This is kind of. Prime Minister. No that's not. True I'm sorry I mean that if I may respond from listening carefully to all of this you know we were targets of the ira conservative members of parliament were targets of the Ira So now I know we were particularly targets between between 1979 of course we were but with respect. Yes yes 5 members of parliament all conservatives died at the hands of the ira not all conservatives with one unionist in northern and western and they but they died at the hands of the ira between 1900 $79.00 when done and the end of the 1980 s. 1900 when in doubt was killed so what would we expect in 1904 when the headquarters hotel in Brighton at our party conference and I'm on that at that party comes when that was blown up by the Ira what would we expect our parliamentary colleagues to do we would expect some sympathy what did we find 2 weeks later China comments bringing They Ira members into the House of Commons I can't outrage was you know in the same Gerry are Jeremy Corbin would say that he was reaching out to people and you are trying to find I just tried reaching out. To the items that's what the British government would do as well surely I mean this is this is the point. We agreed to you you've talked about the little you know even mention loyalist terrorism and you didn't mention the discrimination and harassment and killing of Catholics in Northern Ireland but with with the old geezer like you try some as well they're all wrong. You know we're all wrong Big Jim and call Been says all wrong he's like couldn't he's clearly. Didn't I write show but 2 wrongs don't make right chairman was a member of parliament when membership that house who had been killed within the couple of weeks away he said you're not alive still matter. I'm not saying that Catholic likes Monash. That is just not saying I'm not saying talking about suddenly I mean saying. When we talk about last night's not just when I saw some type talking of no point because it's not talking about another thing about people that you have seen in the tear him since you have seen in the lobby as coping would never actually be friend any Tory he wasn't one of those labor and peace in Northern Ireland Very well let me but it's a long process and it's not as simple as that John Major reaching out to Gerry I did a little chat over each other because I can tell you know every line into 5 life is jammed over this lot so if you want to talk about it some of you know how you will have a place on 5 life Jim's calling us from Northern Ireland actually Hello James. Street . Are you go for Parker to hear. Your plan or a 4 year old. Girl McCall one week before reelection. I'm not talking I like him you know what. Most of the people I have one clue they are trouble fair so I'm no good but a part of that I am very disappointed when a courier and I think she owes me cold I'm not sure let me I don't let you speak Edwina directly let me just answer for my part jams it is completely valid to hold politicians to a kind for what they've done join their career especially if they are wanting to hold the office the highest office in the land Boris Johnson is rightly being asked questions about things that he wrote 20 and 30 years ago the. Moment one of them and I don't let one moment chance it is the labor. Party themselves who are citing some articles that Jeremy that bars Johnson wrote when he was a journalist over a decade ago and when you say that it's absolutely right that that should happen you cannot surely thank criticise may for playing an interview that Jeremy carbon did just 4 years ago but also necessary Johnson remove. A mentor to Aman you may look the same so you know what those lists are and you can draw your conclusion from. What you need almost a complete But just on message one point. A lot of them live in Germany call them it's always condemn violence like everybody like also here in the north we've come down violence from every quarter of course also collect through the whole Black said to be at this poll not laid back and. A seasoned politician like a winner card to come by and say what he said lie on little or you know just not all really I think just out just look this up but just to make sure of my facts. The people who were invited by German equipment to come into the house that comes in we saw them that just after the Brighton bombing where Linda quickly and try McLachlan both convicted of activity connected to the Irish Republican Army he should have made sure that people like that didn't come any what you can imagine how scared we are sharing here actually. Yeah but when you're just going to just talking to the ira from the seventy's. When are we for security here where you where you had to live clearance he needed somebody to calm I'm told you need to talk to people could get what you're saying you speak softly and you carry a big stick you have to have defense as well you have to make sure the reason the ira gave up in Northern Ireland in the end is they knew they couldn't win it throw a bomb on the wall that way and when it no and they had mentioned that I think speaks softly but I don't carry a stick for anybody because violence is long all filing Why do you think James Jeremy Corbin 4 years ago could not say when I asked them it was a purge to condemn violence why do you think he was unable to say yes but did he not condemn all fine he did yeah that's a platitude I don't like to do you know not having you know really you. Know Happy Christmas like you know. But you see so you know you're going to you know what back you know it's easy to insult people what we need to do is kick people we need people we need to. Use our brains like you know how we don't are rich are we have we have the right not to take people that own estimation Jimmy Koeppen think she's a peacemaker other people know that he has encouraged and condoned violence. No no no he's only going to go it's not that is unacceptable and it is all much safer and it's not always by you would sit you can. Decide that letting people you know frightens people who are engaged on the moment not wish it on your down or else is going to get everybody still and I know that you installed at least all places you know you will go to sometimes I need to stop Mitt I need you to stop you've all gone let me host this I'll give you a room of course I will that dogs cross the threshold for me there is no evidence that Jeremy Corban has increased violence indeed to do so would be a criminal offense and there is no evidence which were that he has done not stand the next Hello ami. Wordstar you mention in school college I split up one second jambs hello on me Oh Stephen you know I just wanted to bring up when you were talking to Tony Lloyd about the n.h.s. And the figure of 100000 unfilled posts saying within Yes yes yes you said that a car organization it was saying that you know 90 percent of them are temporary some labor have said in their manifesto there are $100000.00 staff they can seize an n.h.s. England including shortages of 43000 nurses when I asked Tony Lloyd tonight what they meant by stuff they can see he said nurses missing whose were his words and what I pointed out to him is that according to n.h.s. Improvement of the 100 for use and staff they can seize an n.h.s. England including shortage of $43000.00 nurses n.h.s. Improvement says 90 to 95 percent of them on 10 day they're filled by temporary staff. Well I mean I think anybody has had much to do with the n.h.s. Recently Mike you know take issue with are you know there's lies damn lies and statistics on that and an n.h.s. Improvements are pretty am House Call motives for wanting to know. The n.h.s. Not seem to be in a message saying because my partner had a sighting at 18 months ago and he was in hospital fright months 7 months in a neuro rehab unit they had to discuss serious brain injury and there were days when they were so short staffed that they hadn't got enough nurses and carers to get him out of bed to do his rehab which was what he was there for and they were really apologetic obviously it was not their fault but they just didn't have enough stuff because it takes 2 to hoist somebody out of bed and they just didn't have enough people to do it and now he's home he's been home since February he's And the community brain injury tame and they have had no. Near of a psychologist since February and they mean trying to recreate somebody and trying and trying and I still can't recruit So it's not just nurses it's all sorts of stuff and I don't know I mean I didn't have on what you know when my partner 1st started you know with with them so I don't know how long the post has been vacant for I waited 4 and a half week