Claire Graham I mean he's on 5 it's the final day on the election campaign trail and installable and Chelsea both reached the Champions League last 16. This is b.b.c. 5 my party leaders are preparing for a final day of campaigning before tomorrow's election our political correspondent is Ben right the main parties is going to be a repeat of what we've heard many times already for Boris Johnson he will say there cannot be another hung parliament the current be a coalition between Jeremy called in the Lib Dems the s.n.p. Because that would just mean in his view no breaks it Jeremy Corbyn will stress his commitment to spending a lot more money on public services enabling people to have pay rises childcare juicer Ensign will call on people to back the Lib Dems to stop brags that the s.n.p. Is Nicholas starch and written an open letter calling Boris Johnson the greatest danger to Scotland of any Tory prime minister in modern times a coroner in New Zealand says they're starting the process of identifying those killed by Monday's volcanic eruption 6 people are known to have died and other it are still missing on White Island it's hoped recovery teams will be able to get there later today here's the country's prime minister to send our darn. Receiving information and advice from Chinese from technical experts as to the proper time for them to be opportune to Weiland to undertake their recovery but having spoken to many of those involved in that operation they are very very. To get back they want to bring people whose loved ones hung a police officer and at least 5 other people have died in a series of gun battles in the state of New Jersey it lasted over an hour the finished with a shape after gunmen barricaded themselves in a shop in Jersey City. Donald Trump's described impeachment charges against him as flimsy and pathetic they've been released by Democrats who accuse the president of putting pressure on Ukraine to investigate a political rival he denies abusing his power and obstructing Congress there's a call for fit in drink packaging to show how much exercise he'd have to date a burn off the calories in it a study suggests it may be a better way to encourage healthier eating Professor Amanda Daly from left for a university let the research for you by. Comparing 500 calories for example and that about 15 minutes of running and it to try and convert it in the way you that the public can easily understand rather than just telling people that have 500 calories which doesn't actually really mean anything because there's no contact. And a man's been fined by the hundreds of fake McDonald's coffee stickers in his color he was stopped by police in Bradford officers say he was trying to defraud the loyalty skein which gives customers free hot drinks Shabnam has a sport defending champions Liverpool have reached the Champions League last 16 as group a win as they be Salzburg to now with most scoring a minutes after the in the 2nd Hall's Chelsea of join them after holding on for a $21.00 win over both that goals came in the 1st half from Tommy Abraham and Cesar Azpilicueta on that play of an ounce they've sacked them manage a collar us despite beating gang 4 nil to reach the knockout stages be temporary says he's pulled out of the running to become the new avatar manager the Shanghai coach was high on the club's list to replace Marco Silva on a permanent basis lead to go on top of the Championship after beating hall to nail the 7th league victory in a row tributes are being paid to former Darby County Oxford United in Portsmouth boss Jim Smith whose died at the age of $79.00 he was known throughout football as the bald eagle and Formula One teams have unanimously rejected need design tires proposed by supply Perelli for the 2020 season after a test in Abu Dhabi last week they said they preferred the 2900 this space b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Sounds small speaker come up with a look at the weather forecasts and then showers over western Scotland and Wales when I otherwise Vasily k. Has been quite dry still windy though a blustery day ahead with sunny spot as the best of the sunshine in the east of Scotland and England there will be some rain in Scotland and Wales and also spread across the east throughout the day highs of 5 degrees in Glasgow and 9 in London. Sport Relief website. Good morning on. The u.k. On digital and online I'm Raj sharp We're up all night. We all think we know what it is and yet genocides are very difficult trying to prove it wasn't my 943 that a Polish Jew. Who was a lawyer coined the word and started to try to devise a legal definition that was passed as he lost every member of his family except this rather. Thanks to Dr. The un established a conventional genocide in 1948 defining it a certain acts committed with the intent to destroy or in part a national ethnic racial or religious group has been tested regularly ever since most likely this week in The Hague. Starting yesterday Myanmar's leader Aung San Suu Kyi the civilian leader Aung San Suu Kyi has been appearing at the un International Court of Justice to defend her country against accusations that the Burmese military committed genocide against nearly 3 quarters of a 1000000 Russians or people who were forced to flee into exile in Bangladesh the case here is against the country of Myanmar rather than anybody in particular and Myanmar stands accused of committing atrocities against the Muslim right in China minority while Susan Hutchinson is ph d. Scholar on in the coral bells school for Asia Pacific Affairs at the Australian National University Hello Susan Oh it's lovely if it is morning good Good to have you with us too we saw on it we've seen pictures of on Sun Suchi taking notes and and being very very attentive at the International Court of Justice does she actually have to be there at all well she made the decision to leave the delegation I'm chill leave me on my delegation to the International Court of Justice I mean as the leader of the delegation Yes she. Will begin there are little there are proceedings today and it will be it will be interesting to see what what I think statement looks like is it possible that she could just flatly deny everything. Yes it is that is. What the government of Myanmar has done with regard to the revenue genocide they deny the fact that every union as a group of people even exist they did not I that they are. A group of of of people that exist within within within me imo they deny that there has been any gross sexual violence they deny that there have been any genocidal acts and they do not have been any lack under international law and these hearings are about that sort of procedural hearing about what are called provisional measures to try and ensure that there are noises that are there are ongoing genocidal while these international while this international case proceed and it's entirely possible I will say that there is there is no there is nothing there is nothing to see here move along please so yes it's entirely possible that what we may see is not you know an international and an international bigger of renowned allow a woman. The world has seen as a figure of didn't democracy a Nobel laureate. Defending what with the most of us considered to be a genocide and it would look to most of us as. A civilian figure and as you say the figure of international red not. As being put up there is some sort of Us trauma to the south and the bobbies army which isn't even there yes well that this is an interesting position that she is in and I'm with you know a in times of the way that the bennies government exists now is you know. When they Alexion what held in Myanmar. Well you know there was some some hope that would have a thing a transition to civilian government and they created this unique position. But the reality was that it was a very much a position of compromise and and she now is in the ultimate position of compromise the where as a civilian Lida she is in a position where she. She is obliged to defend her government. But the rest of us and looking at what the government has done as illegal inconceivable and immoral and yet she is but she has chosen whether it has been due to internal pressure on knowledge. She's in a position now where she's defending what the government is doing. But there's also a bunch of bit of internal politics and that Ch'ien around the range as a group and the way that back and did within me and model with her gods that kind of minority status then the discrimination that I smiled broadly you know that I have very and I have. Significant discrimination and have done so for all of them for generations and I looked on very very poorly and I mean generally that those of us those are the groups that have suffered it's genocide in the pa. But thought of very very poorly so even if she had sort of other minorities then descended other minorities with Grace had. The right in Europe at the very bottom of the food chain with regard to groups that she may have defended in the just worried about prosecution because that impressive list of played says and this is an international prosecution. Yes I meant that the International Court of Justice does not like the court used to be the court when countries go to resolve disputes between countries so it's not about individual. But the lawyers who are that are of our greatest team and it was fascinating listening to yesterday's argument. Very powerful argument I didn't day just a case that was brought by the Gambia was a very strong you know the argument provisional measures indeed a very very strong provisional measures have been granted by the court in cases that are much less extreme than what we have seen in Myanmar at the moment well thank you Susan very much and I should just note that the United States and in the form of the u.s. Treasury moved to sanction some leading members of the Myanmar government just yesterday as well imposing sanctions on 4 Myanmar military leaders. Of Asli direct result of this prosecution which is taking place in Stossel coach of justice. Well as yet. Yes sorry Susan I beg your pardon yes just carry on by all means All right thank you very much and I spend it Pentasa because it's really important that other countries continue to support this case to the u.k. It's important to do good throughout the break that person important that sanctions that have been occurring through the e.u. Sanctions person transition across. The particularly because of the role that that So violence played as a part of this genocide I was important that the u.k. Government I'm continue the call of the around responding to conflict related sexual violence that I really play a really strong moments before during the hands and according to the daughters of the sexual violence that occurred out of this genocide and. Preventing support to any businesses as well that has been really holding up the regime thank you in this case Susan Hutchinson Straley a national device to the New Zealand volcano is still giving a lot of cause for alarm after the fatal folk out of corruption over the weekend when it erupted 47 people were on the island we know that been 6 fatalities and 8 people missing presumed dead Marmol or as Professor school of geosciences. Sydney Professor Mohler you you know the white tile and our walk out quite well do you. I do my wife and I visited the White Island in January 2018 as tourists even though we're both geologists. It must've been quite a visit because I mean looking at the films that the whole place is covered in and sulphur crystals in the most extraordinary outcroppings Yeah it's a really quite extraordinary it's unlike most other. Tourist experiences even amongst volcano tourism I'd say as from this one arrives the ones fitted out with hard hats and gas masks and as such you saying to yourself isn't that a bit over the top but you realise soon that it's not. The whole place is a bleak landscape you know totally devoid of Florence wanna dotted for scraps of Yellow and White Sulphur crystals and as you start walking you know your past by steam vents bubbling pits of mud and how to book an extreme just you know with these vivid she was a few yellow and orange all around you it's very picturesque picturesque but a little bit terrifying. It is and so there and. That hissing fumaroles everywhere so what's special about why the island is that most of it is submerged under the sea it's what but what sticks out at the top is only a park less than 10 percent of it so the whole structure is actually about 1.6 kilometers tall about the sea floor and so sea water seeps into it all the time and into the magma chamber and it gets super heated and it comes out as the pressure drops and it comes out and so called fumaroles and some of springs and gases that can be up to $800.00 degrees hot and there are no fences a barrier as it's a very raw and exhilarating experience and I guess that's for the tracks tourist to the c.s.s. And I don't mind of where there are any checks made as you know on the likelihood of an eruption or anything when when you went on the island are were you told that you did so they much your own risk. That's right you know you you sign a waiver and and. You know that that's 2 and a day cause at that point in time there hadn't been any major eruption felt for a while and I think to most people it's it's a little bit like walking through say Yellowstone National Park you know which is just you know another well known what kind of attraction I was just nothing generous at least not in recent memory to want to can but walk through these fears of guys and fumaroles there and and if one doesn't think about it too much then why did I learn my team like that is fair but and tribes didn't think about it sufficiently at the time when we went we just got lucky that it didn't erupt from Beaver that goodness sake yes you must be you must be shocked by the news and may I ask you as a geologist not. Having seen the this eruption this that this you know whatever it was the island hopping on a call for or something. What do you say how long do you think it will take to return to the state it was in when you were on it. Well that's that's that's very hard to say and I think from from reading all the news reports and the local geology parts I think nobody is quite sure of that and one has to keep in mind that for the whole 'd time period between 975-2000. Why dial and had a long history of of your options and the severity of these eruptions are measured by volcanic expressivity index and. It's a logarithmic scale like the one used for us quakes and so these eruptions typically have been up to. The number 3 and that means that the the ject the stuff that's coming out can be a volume of up to 10000000 cubic kilometers associated with 832515 kilometer plume and so you know these things have happened over you know a long time period several decades and above that irregular time intervals and so nobody you know I think nobody is actually able to predict. You know how long it's going to be quiet as mine is going to erupt again and it's all to do with the seawater that. Seeps into the volcano if it if it were to be sitting on dry land it would be more predictable. But as you said 10 percent of it is above that the ocean and the rest of it as a submaster here again that I remember from a volcanic eruption on. Was it's a solution one of the can be in. Islands on the hof of the island. I was covered in the lava and the other half of the island was just as it had been before. It it could this be a similar situation yeah I'll of course and as I said before you know as a tourist and perhaps doesn't think about that sufficiently But if you look at the history of White Island there's a used to be a mining site such as far as being mined since the 18 hundreds and but in $9141.00 side of the crater wall collapsed completely. And caused a so-called lot harder than a mob so that at night that buried that and tired of the village where the miners were staying and and they were never found they were completely covered and so there is actually a history of this kind of thing happening there and when geologists go to you know make surveys or studies do they stay on the island or do they just land like tourists from a boat for the day I'm pretty sure that nobody ever stays on this island. So you would you would just land. And deploy some equipment like a new camera. Seems like they would be needing a new camera now since the previous one was destroyed and yet you deploy some equipment and then you would leave again and hope that you can monitor the volcano remotely as much as possible you would you would hope do you think there are going to be ever the opportunities the weather on this island again I mean given the international attention that there has been and obviously this tragic loss of life . Yeah. I mean I think the answer is probably no I mean I think now I think that the whole lot has become more a larger to the risks involved and and the unpredictability of of o.t.c. Eruptions. I think I would be surprised if for tourism. To continue there is a problem is that the I don't desire to be small it's only. 2 or 3 kilometers in diameter and so that means even the relatively small eruption you can't get away from it you know because you're sort of trapped on the island and you know hardly any right to hide you know the instructions how to hide behind a rock when this happens you know but also visibility but usually very poor if an eruption happens and instructions that I have read say not to walk anywhere in those circumstances because you might be for you know stepping into a snow at the. Lake or something like that just sounds horrific Professor Miller thank you very much for talking to us You're very welcome news just saying coming in from. Bougainville which says that they have voted for their independence from popular New Guinea they voted to become the world's newest country in a non-binding referendum 97.7 percent of people supported the move however it still has to be ratified by the popular New Guinea legislature so we'll have to see what happens. It's just coming up to $425.00. Home digital b.b.c. Said last week. This is b.b.c. Radio 5 live here with the news Claire Graham Thank you Rod Good morning or into the final day of the election campaign and Jeremy Corbyn will say that a Labor government would put money in your pocket because you deserve it Boris Johnson will repeat his claim that the conservatives are the only party that can get brags it done the s.n.p. Leader necklaced origins written an open last are calling him the greatest danger to Scotland of any Tory prime minister in modern times $27000.00 chickens are to be cold at a farm in Suffolk where cases of bird flu have thing confirmed officials say the risk to public health is very low and the study says if it packs should display how much exercise a person would need to do to burn off the calories contained within it the researchers from left to university claim it could cut a row and 200 calories from a person's daily average Shabnam has a sport defending champions Liverpool have reached the Champions League last 16 as group a winners they be Salzberg to know with most solid scoring a minutes after Nabby Kater in the 2nd half Chelsea of join them after holding on for a $21.00 win over a little boat that goes came in the 1st half from Tommy Abraham and Cesar Azpilicueta on the plea of announced they've sacked their manager Carlo on Shalott eat us despite beating gang 4 nil to reach the knockout stages be temporary says he's pulled out of the running to become the new avatar manager the Shanghai coach was high on the club's list to replace Marco silver on a permanent basis leads on top of the Championship after beating hole to Nel their 7th league victory in a row tribute