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For anyone else this is the same. 5 lives we're joined by the b.b.c. Local radio stations across the u.k. Hello local radio Raja the main news on 5 life a pale speck calm in St Paul playing I mean sport Denmark Russia or Irish World Cup . I'm not the 5 websites for us the North Yorkshire explained. This is b.b.c. 6 it is used on 5 live here you are hardly soldiers in Zimbabwe have taken over the state parole calls the b.b.c. And made tensions between the president Robert Mugabe and the army the ruling party has accused the top general of treason of the he said that the military was prepared to intervene in politics in recent days Mr Mugabe has sacked some officials who don't want his wife Grace to succeed him will is a journalist the don't normally takes on to the streets that's not so they are sending a message to get it they're trying to flex their muscles so you can push us around . Used to be told Mugabe no uncertain terms that he's going to stop paging people with military backroom from Zanu p.f. . 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We have recovered suspect that hears about the shooter is about automatic rifle into. The U.K.'s highest courts will decide whether Scotland can finally implemented a policy of minimum pricing for alcohol legislation was approved by the Scottish Parliament 5 years ago but it's been tied up in court challenges amid claims it breaches European law will. M.P.'s at Westminster have begun scrutinizing the government's proposed e.u. Withdrawal bill there's been heated debate over whether or not there should be an exact date for BRICs It's in law nearly $500.00 amendments have been tabled political correspondent is Leyla nothing the government easily won these votes tonight Botts it is a tricky time for the government are definitely potential pitfalls ahead suggested it wants to put the 29th of March 29th seen in law as Breck's it date and this is riled the opposition and many conservative colleagues I think this could be one of the big battles to watch in the coming weeks. 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On digital and on why I was shocked by people whose wealth increased by 8 percent or more since the crash of 2008 when good company the world's richest people became more wealthy increasing their share of the world's total wealth from. 42 percent in 2008 to 50 percent or 2017 that would be indeed a large sum of money more than a $100.00 trillion dollars while a words 3 and a half 1000000000 poorest people have total assets of 7 and a half 1000 pounds each or Lance Put another way less than one percent of the world's adult population own 46 percent of the world's wealth. We're going to begin with one of these really difficult stories to decode we're going to be trying to decode all night long it's supported by the Reuters news agency and confirmed by our own b.b.c. World Service that there have been loud explosions in the capital of Zimbabwe Hurra soldiers are reported to have taken over the headquarters of the national broadcaster said b.c. Writer supports that armored vehicles have been seen near the city center and on Choose day we know this and by ways ruling party accuse the Army chief of inciting and section or treasonable behavior after he said the military were prepared to intervene to end political infighting over who is going to succeed President Robert Mugabe when he ultimately dies with us is Peter Godwin the author of the fear the last days of Robert Mugabe and of white boy in Africa a memoir of growing up then Rhodesia Hello Peter. Hello Well what do your sources tell you about what is actually happening in Zimbabwe. Well let's at the front have a cavity to say that it's extremely confused We're not sure this is a very fluid situation however having said that there have been multiple eyewitness reports all afternoon of columns of tanks and armored personnel carriers coming into town from various army bases outside and it would appear that there is some sort of I mean I'm going to use the word coup in its widest sense going on there's a there's a negotiation for some kind of a transfer of power it would appear the 11 o'clock news on the b.b.c. The state broadcaster fails to flight it didn't air there are eyewitnesses saying from the b.b.c. As you reported saying that the troops have taken over that there's been reports of explosions and it would seem to me from what I'm hearing from people on the ground is that the one Army unit that would be likely to put up any resistance would be the presidential guard all fairness Express and that the army the rest of these Army units coming in would would perhaps be moving to neutralize that. We well you hedge the word coup with all sorts of cautions if it were something short of a coup what would it be can you give us a little bit of a sense of what's been going on politically. What's been happening essentially is that Grace McGarvey brother McGarvey is young wife of 40 years younger than him has made in the last couple of weeks a very a very aggressive play to be his heir apparent to take over from him as you know he's 93 he's very doddery is on its last legs although he's going to stand as a candidate for the next election there's been a lot of jockeying within the ruling party Zanu p.f. Or who's going to replace them and her main rival was Emerson one and it was another cabinet minister and several days ago he was forced to flee the country with various allegations that he was up to no good and he was a treasonous in one thing and he had to flee the country and at the same time the head of the army general triangle was sent out of the country I think to John on some sort of a mission to neutralize him and this is really a push back on the from the generation of Zanu p.f. People who fought in the war they believe that they should be running the country and this younger generation doesn't have none of them have any liberation war credentials don't yet deserve to be in power so it's really it's really a jockeying for who replaces McGarvie in that sense when we talk about who are not really talking about a transfer of power from one party to another we're really just talking about who gets to head up the party that is already in power and bear in mind that McCarthy is the only leader the. Independents the 19. Well what about the role of Mrs Magog bases seems to play a part in these discussions. Well absolutely she's she's the reason this has all happened that she suddenly became relatively recently started to have ambitions on the top job that she wanted to take over and that really stuck in the throats of the army generals and the older leaders within the army p.f. Who all have liberation war credentials and she was very aggressive in their tactics and she seemed to be sort of dominating McGarvie especially her husband especially as he sort of got increasingly kind of elderly and sort of doddery you see all these pictures and then forming a sleep in un meetings and that kind of thing so this is really a squabble at the top of the on a p.f. The ruling party who takes over and she in a sense she has provoked this by making her play and I'm afraid I mean if I were a betting man I think she would she will lose this won't necessarily I don't think General to wangle himself the head of the army will will will run the country I don't think that's what's going on here I think that this is a sort of negotiation if you like and that will probably be either Emerson running . Or my you are too old guard Zanu p.f. Senior people who will take over from McGarvie but probably not tomorrow or the next day it's quite possible McCarthy will be allowed. To see out his rule until the next elections which are due next year just looking at you know diplomatic advice on this with for example we've got the ambassador Zimbabwe's ambassador to South Africa dismissing talk about who obviously he's he's nowhere near a. He says the government's intact on the other hand you've got the State Department closing the embassy in in some bob way and encouraging citizens u.s. Citizens to shelter in place until further notice so clearly the State Department saying something's going on. No there's definitely something going on we can we can argue about the semantic support it is but there's definitely something going on and it's a bad I mean essentially it's a tower struggle within the ruling parties on a p.s. That that much is completely clear what it seemed to be in the course of the day was that maybe with a show of force this could get done without any actual violence we have these reports this evening of explosions in Harare it's very late there obviously no one's quite sure exactly where or what but it would appear that there's some sort of a violent something there some reports say gunfire other. Explosions but there is some kind of arms negotiation that's going on at the moment as to who will rule the party and there's definitely something going on I think and one would expect the government spokesman both outside the country and within to be saying everything's fine everything's fine that's what one it would expect but there's clearly something going after her and looking for signs in the future I mean who would you expect we'd be hearing from I mean would be hearing from the chief of the Army if if they are this is a plan on the fit if it's come to pass right I mean the chief of the army general touring a gave a press conference earlier yesterday saying that they would that the army wouldn't stand by and allow the top ranks of Zanu p.f. To be purged he was very explicit it was a 4 page statement and he laid it out very clearly in response the government put up a fairly junior minister of ministers information saying that what the general had said was in fact treasonous at that point that the die was cast I mean that basically this then became a power struggle it would have to go to the mass as it were I would expect. Tomorrow perhaps if this is if the events overnight become sort of decisive that you would probably in the 1st and stands hear from the head of the Army just saying time tannic everything carries on as normal and I think what you'd be very if this happens would be pains to say is that this isn't the army isn't taking over the running of the country this is the kind of critical at West African crew where the military actually moved into a state House that the army was just moving to protect the order of things within Zanu p.f. That they wanted to that they wanted to protect the the the succession as they think it ought to happen but to go to other civilian politicians and then I think in very short order you will either hear from m s n one and God As I said Who is the heir apparent he was forced to flee a few days ago he is believed to be in South Africa but we haven't got confirmation of that because he hasn't said anything he had to flee the country through Mozambique but we understand he's now in South Africa he may return that's one possibility and as I said there's another there's another very senior Zanu p.f. Politician the 2nd my who could easily emerge as a kind of compromise candidate between the 2 so I would expect we would hear something tomorrow morning I mean I've even heard that they that there's already been an 11 o'clock but they've been told to expect something at 11 o'clock but you know if there's pushback and one never really knows you know their army their army bases throughout the country and so this is not just going to play our sense. Of the sea that's by far the most important place but I would imagine that the rest of the army would probably do what the Army Chief General Chu when God tells them to do. As a tremendously helpful Richard thank you thank you very much for all this and if. I mean tell us a little bit about Peter tells a little bit about Mr Mugabe I mean this is Mr Mugabe still holding cabinet meetings says he's still in charge. Well I mean theoretically and technically he is and he still does hold cabinet meetings. All the reports I've had of people who were sort of. In the Arab or whatever say that you would maybe have seen the footage of him at the u.n. The u.n. General council where he he gave a speech in fact a sort of anti Trump speech and that he had to kind of furniture to get the courage he couldn't really walk on his own but once he got the courage he was you know he spoke with strong voice and made sense and things and I think just like many people who are that he doesn't have that much in durance he gets tired very easily falls asleep often and what's what's become abundantly apparent in the last years and especially the last month he's increasingly dominated by his wife by grace McCarthy and that she is increasingly running her man making decisions the state house and that's been a source of some tension growing tension between the McGarvie family and the rest of the of the cabinet and the cabinet are divided and speak to the party leadership but I didn't see 2 groups one was called sort of g. 40 meaning the generation of 40 year olds who are all too young to have been in the war and the other one was basically the older generation and in a sense the younger generation has made a move of power probably as it would turn our present surely but really this I think that a lot of the people in the senior people in the party believe that what Grace McCarthy was trying to do was to launch a bedroom crew in a way that because she had most access McGarvie she had started to manipulate them and to run him and the and then which they were prepared to put up with to a certain extent but it became clear that she had leadership designs self that was that was too much for them to. Peter Godwin awfully grateful to you and thank you so much for being with us you're welcome Peter Godwin as the author of the fear the last days of Robert Mugabe and we'll bring you more from Zimbabwe are about some by way as we get well in the Gospel of St Matthew in the south on the recess for on to every one that hath shall be given and he shall have a heart under this but from him that hath not should be taken away even that which he has and it looks like a piece of 2000 year old wisdom is on the money once again because in a new report Credit Suisse the bank says that $2300000.00 new $1.00 ears were made over the last year taking the global total of dollar millionaires to $36000000.00 but the real growth has been in the number of ultra high net worth individuals those with a net worth of $50000000.00 or more which is got 5 times making them by far the fastest growing group of wealth holders the top one percent now hold just about half the world's wealth as the rich wax the poor way in 3 and a half 1000000000 poorest adults around the world have assets of less than $7600.00 pounds Fessor Robert Reich as Farmer secretary of labor under President Clinton who now like to some public policy University of California at Berkeley Hello Professor Reich. Hello who well predecease I suppose in one way are not telling us anything new but they seem to be telling us about an intensifying pace of money concentrating at the top. Yes the trend has been growing for many years but what we have seen in recent years is that there has been an explosion of wealth at the very top even though most people are are just barely getting by and that's true even in the advanced economies advanced so-called advanced nations in the United States for example we have just a handful of billionaires who control most of the nation's wealth and certainly are wealthier than the vast majority and the problem of course is not just inequality per se the problem is with vast wealth comes enormous political power and. If you are among the plutocratic Claassen you you have almost instant access Don't you to legislators senators members of the House of Representatives people who you may have funded actually during the election campaign. And that extraordinary access gives you the power indirectly to shape the laws and rules by which an economy function and thereby get even more wealth you see the vicious cycle of how wealth can create more wealth through the political process as Justice Louis Brandeis the great justice of the u.s. Supreme Court once said we can have democracy of this country or we can have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few but we cannot have both and went to the say this. A sadness actually in the 1920 s. When america was coming out of the last great concentration of wealth called the gilded age in which robber barons as they were called in those times were so wealthy that they could have lackeys that planted sacks of money on the desks of client legislators to get exactly the laws they want A extraordinary wealth and also great poverty and also great corruption. We got through that we had a period of of reaction of backlash a

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