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Media star. 7 o'clock Tuesday the 20th of March and you're listening to Good Morning Scotland with him and getting our top story this morning breaks a transition term spark a fishing frenzy and I don't like this report I make no bones about it I think this transition agreement is a very unsatisfactory agreement not just on fish coming up Russian diplomats shown the door as the U.K. Considers more poor souls but he sanctions in such an old democracy like Great Britain to resume should not behave herself like Mr Putin. The search continues for a missing since Andrew student. A summary of the news the U.K. Government will decide today whether to take further action against Russia after Saturday's expulsion of British diplomats by Moscow both sides now have ordered 23 diplomats to leave following the nerve agent attack in Solsbury which Britain has blamed on Russia the Russian embassy says its diplomats and their families totaling about 80 people will leave London today our diplomatic correspondent James Robins reports for Britain this is both expulsion day and another decision day the Russian embassy in London will say goodbye to its 23 diplomats to reason may and our senior ministers on the National Security Council will consider possible next steps against Russia after Moscow's response on Saturday expelling the same number of British diplomats but also closing down both the British Council in Moscow and the consulate and said Petersburg will Britain now decide to launch a 2nd round of measures to do so risks an endless tit for tat with the Kremlin Jeremy Corbin says Britain still has to work with Russia's president Vladimir Putin despite the evidence pointing to Moscow's involvement in the poisoning the labor leaders said there had to be a relationship with Russia one that should be assertive demanding and robust. Conservative M.P.'s representing areas with fishing communities are expected to meet to resume a later to raise their concerns of by the transitional period after BRICS that under the draft deal the European Union will continue to set quarters on Scottish M.P. John Lemon said the government was a risk of betrayal Here's Christine Finnegan today's expected meeting with the prime minister follows what was described as a frank exchange of views at a meeting of conservative M.P.'s and the Environment Secretary Michael Gove last night M.P.'s angered the fishing element of the transitional agreement was clear the Scottish Tory M.P. For muddy Douglas Ross said the government had delivered far less than he expected his party colleague John lament said the government risked a betrayal of fishing communities which voted for bricks it in large numbers number 10 said it had secured specific safeguards on behalf of British fisherman the Scottish fisherman's Federation and said the government's draft withdrawal agreement with the E.U. Falls far short of an acceptable deal research by the Institute for Fiscal Studies has find that cutting tire of sun imports after bricks it would not make prices in the shops lower than they were before the E.U. Referendum the study find that even of all types of source scrapped the reduction in prices would be less than the increase resulting from the fall in the value of the pile and after the bricks and vote. Exploration in the North Sea oil and gas sector is at its lowest levels since the early 1970 S. According to an industry report oil and gas U.K.'s annual business outlook said only $94.00 wells were drilled last year our energy correspondent Kevin Keen reports this is the 1st time since 1973 that the number of wells drilled has fallen below 100 The industry says that's worrying for the long term future for replenishing oil stocks and maintaining the skills base for if and when things pick up however it does so the center is in a healthier state with a rising oil price leading to more firms returning profits job losses mean costs have been driven down significantly but the delayed impact of the downturn on the supply chain means revenues there have fallen by more than 10000000000 pounds the information commissioner is applying for a warrant to search computers used by the technology company Cambridge analytical amid concerns about its activities the phone has been accused of using the personal data of 500000000 Facebook members amassed without their consent to help Donald Trump win the election in 2016 votes companies deny any wrongdoing. Police Scotland is taking part in a U.K. Wide campaign to encourage members of the public to help prevent terrorism it follows research showing that while 82 percent of people would report suspicious behavior many were unclear what they'd be looking for are home affairs correspondent we've all just been has more policing depends on information from the public but how to improve the flow of that information the action counters terrorism campaign the U.K. Wide initiative from police and intelligence agencies aims to tap into the public keenness to help by giving them information on what to look for suspicious activity police say should be reported include hiring large vehicles for no obvious reason and taking notes or photos of security arrangements and C.C.T.V. Cameras Police Scotland's counterterrorism lead A.C.C. Steve Johnson said everyone knows what's familiar in their lives anything out of the ordinary could be information to help in the fight against terrorism. Ringo Starr will receive knighthood in an invest 2 of ceremony a Buckingham Palace today described as the most overdue knighthood of all time by musical writer so Tim Rice the honor will be presented to the 77 year old Beatle by the Duke of Cambridge and that's the news let's get the sports headlines now I feel good loud Thank you Hillary close to signal the end of his international career after telling B.B.C. Scotland he shouldn't be called up again because he's too old the 34 year old called mamak strikers the Premiership's top scorer of the season but says he belongs to a failed generation Glasgow Warriors all time leading try scorer D.T.H. Van the Man 1st says he's returning to the club to help them win rugby's pro 14 title this season and Scotland's women Carlos have lost their 1st match at the World Championships in Canada one of Fleming's Frank going down tain 2 to Switzerland last night to remain bottom of the group travel news from the Watson county building up in the North Bend a meaty junctions 4 to 6 that small and burn and Aldrin's you look at the leaves on the east burned any it from what burned through to that Livingston that's Johnson's $43.00 and the M 90 cleans a ferry crossing Edinburgh bone traffic looking busy about to be trivia Junction too and in Edinburgh itself congested on the south end and 9 new bridge trains and ferries looking largely fine at those $9295.00 double it and that's B.B.C. Radio Scott the travel. Just rolls and has the weather forecast thank you very much it is a cold start quite a few places in the Highlands down to minus 5 or even minus 9 at the last week so a very cool very frosty as well but a beautiful start of the day with plenty of fairly sunshine it will tend to be closer over the northern Arthur especially Sheth and will be but Apache readers are here but something by to come through for Orkney and that cloud gradually extending into the far north of the mainland and the Northwest later today temperatures after that cold start a ventilator covering 7 Celsius in the north and to vent about 9 degrees in the south well for me after half past 7 8 minutes. Past 7 is the time and this is Tuesday's Good Morning Scotland so a big step has been taken on the road to break that Britain and the E.U. Have reached agreement on a transition period but during that time Brussels will continue to have an influence over fishing rights the industry had expected the U.K. To withdraw from the Common Fisheries policy on the day of leaving the E.U. Yesterday the BRICS that Secretary David Davis said the E.U. Would continue to set quarters until breaks it is fully implemented these arrangements will only apply to go seizures in 2019 since we will still be a member state for those that take place at the end of the shift. Through 2020 will be to go shooting fish opportunities as an independent coastal state deciding who can access our waters and over target for the year where it is relevant we have agreed the European Union will have to consult as the head of the GOES HERE. And United Kingdom share of total catch can it be changed well Scotland's rural economy secretary Fergus Ewing is accusing the conservatives of selling night the industry really is quite shocking because this morning's announcement is proof that conservative politicians from Prime Minister to Davidson have plainly broken their promise will be in the C.F.P. For another 2 years we may not even have a voice at the table we'll be there as console t's not as partners Surely that's the worst possible outcome in this next most crucial of years about Armstrong as chief executive of the Scottish fisherman's Federation and Neil's Vaknin is head of the Danish fisherman's Association Good morning to you both Bertie Armstrong have you been sold out we are not happy with this deal and we've spent the last 24 hours making sure that unhappiness is visible I'm home over our focus no changes to making sure that sovereignty means sovereignty at the end of the interim period I'm glad Neil says here are the losers actually one of my oldest friends in in the matter of collaborative fishing man. But of course in this matter we come by from diametrically opposite sides on this night it's important for this reason Denmark's a wonderful example of the distortion that is the present arrangements under the Common Fisheries policy which will be run on for another 21 months Danish fishing boats account for one 5th of all fish and shellfish landed from the U.K. . Denver Denmark Lions 40 times more fish and shellfish by weight or 14 times by value from the U.K. Easier said than U.K. Boat did from the Danish In other words the grand distortion of the C.F.P. Will carry on for another 24 months I'm sure and he was very pleased about that but that we'll have to chuckle going to have all these here we'll get to him in just a 2nd but as regards your disappointment here that are politicians like Fergus Ewing and others who say to an extent you've been naive about all of this they predicted that this would happen that actually fishing would be used as some kind of bargaining chip and may continue to be so when it comes to trade arrangements in the future and you just didn't see it coming the greatest luxury in the world is to predict failure and then revel in the fact that it actually happens what we could have done with the 3 entities that were very unhappy with one is the E.U. For making these absurd our demands during the IP but they would do that that was fully that was fully expected the U.K. Government for not placing sovereignty is not a matter of giving away fish we could do that if we had sovereignty we've given away sovereignty for an extra 21 months we're very unhappy with that and we're unhappy with all the governments of this northern land because it rather than criticizing the end result what would have been a very much more preferable was foursquare solid support we have one government that's keeping is effectively in the C.F.P. For an extra 21 months and another government that would keep us in the C.F.P. Permanently that's the sort of government the S.N.P. Splats That's exactly right so we're not particularly pleased with the support we've had from any government of this land Well let me bring in Neil's wife and then Scott a freshman think this is not an acceptable deal although about the Armstrong seems to be suggesting that they're just going to have to live with it what is your view of this. Well I thought of that but it was doing my part as well used. Very much in what we might be thinking. We think it's a very sensible agreement we don't we don't see this said victory or anything we have had we have had a quota sharing arrangement since 1973 since in 198310 years after we joined Common Market based on historic rights so nobody's taken anything away from from Britain over the years to Britain it's never ever. Challenge the quote that we have used every year in the Annual and you go to a nation's so. It's time that we get down on the ground and look forward what we have actually is we have a sustainable 80 of the fish stocks to defend and we have to defend. And them so it's nice to have the chew years to work out how to do it to bricks it given the sense told you how shing rights you've talked about how the Scottish fisherman been somewhat naive in believing that this notion of taking back control would would change everything my business is not to interfere in internal affairs and what the Scots have said from the outset we have listened to several ministers I've had meetings with Michael Gove that meetings with all the other people who said we will guarantee you access continued absence and such things but but but we'll have to to acknowledge the agreement is there will then have to work on how do we. Continue to sustain ability we have as a set of 100 more than 100 ships talks between the. U.K. Countries and the U.K. We need to continue after a break said not with somebody with you. Or not somebody setting their own boat is not with somebody saying we are outside because we have shared science we had shared management we have to share things and that's a view we take so we think it's sensible now. Betsy Armstrong some toady M.P.'s seem to be suggesting that they will go to the barricades over this what would you like to see them do because you seem to be suggesting that this is a done deal we just need to move on and focus on what happens after the transition period Well I think anything in the meantime I would like to focus on what happens off the transition period what Neal said it's Scandinavian but not Danish the Stockholm syndrome of something happens for long enough it looks normal Let me give you quickly some comparative figures. Iceland keeps 90 percent of the fish in its waters no we keep and floor and we need and we get you know we want we keep we keep and that was that was that was 50 years ago Neal we keep 40 percent of our waters we will have sovereignty under. Bricks it and we want that adjusted it's nothing to do with historic rights it's to do with normal custom and practice and he's right about sustainability sovereignty over the fish and responsibility for sustainability will fall to us in our waters and we will make absolutely sure it's sustainable it's nothing to do. With with rights acquired in $173.00 it's a by moving towards the the normal rules of international sovereignty of a maritime area and he's right about about what happened 50 years ago but the international community didn't agree with Britain then and we don't agree with ourselves but just to go back to my point about what Conservative M.P.'s are saying is your message to them Do not resist this transition deal focus on 2024 if if if this can be changed and I suspect it. If this can be changed so that all we want is the sovereignty accorded to us under international law and we can be as generous as ungenerous with with fishing opportunity and access for Danish boats and others as negotiation permit if that can be changed the that is good if it can't be changed the focus must be on sovereignty means sovereignty at the end of the interim period so that we may return to being a world leading seafood producing nation what Niels it might or might it be that from your perspective that that notion of sovereignty has to be challenged legally . I don't know whether you have to be drunk legally obviously we look. At apologies we seem to be having a bit of an issue there with our with our line there too it's Neil's way when there was a suggestion Bertie Armstrong that this could end up in some kind of challenge how would you respond to that know that that would challenge the basis upon which all the coastal states capital letters mean something by way of sovereignty all the coastal states operate Iceland Norway the pharaoh's up here in the north east Atlantic and New Zealand America elsewhere it's an international law you have sovereignty over your waters and the and the resources there in that's absolutely clear there's no challenge there's also no challenge on historic rights otherwise we'd still be fishing off of Iceland no in the cold wars wouldn't wouldn't have mattered we've got now is back just a final point on that in terms of the way forward kneels What's your view. Mind you on the way forward is cooperation again and now that you have been talking about. Camp for the last one and a half years now the time has come again to talk to. We have reduced our fleet we've got the fact. Apologies obviously just having a butt of a technical difficulty there but thank you very much indeed both for joining us this morning Neil's work on there who is head of the Danish Fishermen's Association and Betty Armstrong of the Scottish freshman's Federation will be hearing from the Conservative M.P. John Lamb and after half past 7 and from Fergus Ewing from the Scottish Government after 8 the time is 70 team the U.K. Government ministers and senior officials will discuss potential further actions against Russia at a meeting of the National Security Council later as the 23 Russian diplomats expelled from Britain leave today Boris Johnson has said that Moscow's denials over the souls brace by poisoning were increasingly absurd and accuse the Kremlin of changing its story regarding the Nova Charles nerve agent he spoke yesterday before a gathering of the E.U. Foreign Affairs Council which has declared its unqualified solidarity for the U.K. Over the incident this is a classic Russian strategy of trying to conceal the truth in the haystack of. The Station and what really strikes me to the European friends in part today is that 12 years after the assassination of Alexander Litvinenko in London. Any. Lord Peter Ricketts is a former National Security Advisor and was the permanent secretary at the Foreign Office he joins us now good morning good morning what do you think of the U.K.'s response so far Well I think Lucas responded in the right way so far I'm not in favor of going further down the road or to tout expulsions today because I think that will just lead to an endless spiral which to leave us with no contact with Russia at all at the end I think what we've already started is what we should pursue international support which Boris Johnson is talking about which is growing as people understand how serious this was going off to the money which is crucial there's a lot. Russian money in London some of it from people who gained it corruptly in Russia some from people with dodgy human rights records let's tighten the legislation or not and then thirdly let's pursue the international organization responsible for verifying chemical weapons who are now investigating and if they confirm our findings then I think we should go for a full investigation of Russian chemical weapons labs that's already a good plan of action for the future so you say that. More I suppose you know retaliating further would end up in a tit for tat situation with the Kremlin but does it not also risk making Britain look weak as a result what I want I'm saying really isn't we should not do what we've announced we will do I think Britain would look weak if we didn't follow through on Syria's crackdown on Russian money from doubtful backgrounds in London from going through a wider campaign of international support that's going to be more effective frankly do we need other countries on board to target that Russian money. Yes that certainly And of course other countries have been tighten

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