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M c I'm told this is live in the same place that the sun flour returns with a new series showcasing the best in local standup talent the I'm from x Marge with his policy My mom's a gargoyle I doing the same told on the guests I'm going to teach history I made him. Change on a difficult plan from scratch and I choose day from 10 and afterwards at the b.b.c. Don't kowtow to gay slash radials to the rule of. Law I want to make of this one sent to detention in school for not being clean shaven one almost no contact of the show about that very problem he said My son has been given the tension for not being clean shaven I'm having stubble some of the teachers have stubble and beards What do you reckon a step too far as the simply the rules being implemented to 0 with 3030 in the 55 and 55 I think I had stubble at school maybe I grew up let's say very early maybe I was about 13 or 14 I had stubble and I never really got rid of it I'm joined by commentators Angela Epstein very good morning to you both good morning what dear I can. I think what you said just moments ago is absolutely right rules are rules it's like saying you know I want to play for Manchester United but I'm not very keen on the color red if you don't want to subscribe to the school rules then go somewhere else whether that whether there is merit can those rules is a separate conversation in terms of the step we look smart is double appropriate because if you start by knocking the school rules and staying well off the bill is perfectly natural so I accept that what about well you're allowed to air instead of one airing or you're allowed to wear makeup I think children as a rule in general behave better perform better when they have pride in their parents and there's lots of empirical evidence to support sas any anecdotes Leigh for my own children yes but you're contradicting yourself slightly there on July because in terms of stubble it doesn't necessarily mean you look on tidy or that you don't take pride in your appearance but I think that's a judgement call because you could also equally say that it doesn't look untidy to have 3 airings that want to that's the way fashion goes if those are the rules and they're not unreasonable rules because it's not just a saying everybody has to eschew please no time in the when which would be you know physically enormously uncomfortable they want the kids to appear in a certain way and if the kids know the rules and flout the roles then I don't mean to be dramatic but that's the best the chaos that went when teaching people relationships often did and that was you constantly question or thought the obviously children are entitled to their opinion so the lots of things that we have to encourage imagination to take flight but this is a very simple practical if these are the school rules and it's not for collecting debate about whether that mean here I mean in terms of the people to decide what they can and can't this house all want to buy it then the people that should be setting an example on a daily basis in the school so for example the teachers you know they they will quite likely some of them will have beards talking about the man here. Ensemble and doesn't necessarily mean it's not styled or tidy or whatever you know if there is a line for the pupils and why would the well be reflected in the teachers because that's classic sort of egalitarianism stuff liberalism about well everybody has to be equal I don't things are equal in all things peaches when it fix the school they wed make the school it may why donkey is going to adults that's an entirely different kind of role and carrot to play a position that they occupy within the dynamic of the school environment that sometimes you get the Ok teachers don't have to wear uniforms you could argue why we all got to look the same but teachers can all look entirely different I think that for those with great respect for the it's a sort of a 3 Nations compound since without very recent how dare you under McVay What do you reckon a well official her dogs growing boys would give a girl's attention for half an hair on their legs because girls have hairy legs and real life and they have their legs so you know words that began and and are boys and girls been desperately here isn't it better that he turns up good with a bit of double rather than not turning up for school at all and my bro hark back to the Dez kind I say the words bum well then they are about 2 minutes later there's nothing wrong with it but it just makes me feel a bit squeamish I'll not stab but will top of ards you know not just boy had I mean remembered by your some are quite you know. Bastions the really but you know I think the teachers in those days I think there should be a bit of playing in the head teachers the teachers should have a bit of common uniform infringement every single day and good it comes target the ball on it young people expressing their individuality cushion against the rules which is what they showed I think the teachers have to come and than you know not get the pension unless you're. Paying. And then the grass away but you know I remember my says the boys had like old. Fluffy mustaches and the girls had 3 year rings. But on the left going to his underlip point is if the rules are you come home and then if you don't enforce those rules and what is the point Nabhan them and their marriage where the line from this is a uniform you have to wear you come of this type of haircut I was sent home from school from a haircut many years ago and I had to wear a hot for about 2 weeks to my mum could not actually look at me but you don't mean to the rules are there Andrea Therefore you want a full of them but the rules are and everything's all day whether it's the gods on your pal or on how I or every year ring that one earring or as it's been airing at the top of your ear instead of on your notes so teachers would just spend every single minute of every all our cutting down and uniform and Frenchmen stop for there has to be something in the un it's also a good thing for children to learn high far they can push the rows when they come to longer priests there is any further So yeah 3 year rings rather than go on a bit of doubles but if you're persistently aggressive and justifying the rules then not when the teacher should come down hard on you but I said like well is there a difference between boys boys it's a difficult time for adolescent boys when their bodies are changing and they are starting to show her but also still for girls to be my friend as we think of the girls attention for not shaving her legs. And there's no suggestion this is happened in this occasion but would you object to that and if there is the rule well as you should have you know during the summer and you've known tights on you have to shave them legs if those are the rules says the rules are there are there obviously protocols Why is that parents in the parent body could express that concerned about that and that can be discussions about that I think what alarms me and what with this is Ok we're only talking about kids having fluffy facial hair and I've got 3 sons and I've been through batches. It's not that I haven't seen it from the shop floor yeah it's this idea of let's see what let's see how far we can push the boundaries it's good for children to how long are you serious is just a better yes Dolan's I'm perfectly serious Stephen I'm perfectly serious I think the school is a place of order and discipline it's also obviously a place where we have to encourage innovation imagination and let imagination take science as I said a moment ago but I think if there is just the most to be astounded at the core and discipline it is not to kids to use something like uniform as a way to try and Ok their individuality there's a clue in the title uniform it provides uniformity Ok Andrea mentioned something earlier which I thought was interesting in terms of a commonsense approach so for example we've all heard of the charity Movember which is for for cancer on men grew mustaches during the month of November to show their support rich money Xandra but they would you think would that from them or they could maybe use a commonsense approach a $1000000.00 make an exception mare or should so be that the rules are you can't do that so tough Well I think I think look if we want to encourage children to have dialogue an adult conversation everybody knows now that this coming up they should approach they they should approach that the school in the months before and say you know look most members coming up. We'd like to sort of x. You know the growth of mistrust as a consequence of raising money for charity What do you think about that it's a bit like a student rag day and it's a bit like wearing your own clothes day when I was in school I bet you were a rebel and I can tell from the tone of your voice you did what you wanted I'm afraid it did and I went to I was a scholar I was from a very modest family but when a scholarship to a posh girls' school for anybody comes a lot of us talking privilege and in a 6 when we didn't have to wear uniforms but there was an own clothes Polish stage so you could just come in looking like a punk So what we had to do is we could wear child but they weren't allowed to have sex. Those saying for example could lead jeans now that could some of the men used the most ridiculous men inside the roof yeah but the question is What impact does that have any on your education if you are there and you are there to learn is tough enough when you are a novelist and trying to fit in the changes are going on your body you maybe don't want to go to school in the forest with many of these rules on how does a lot of fact you're learning. Well 1st of all as I said there's plenty of research I haven't gone to put it cold in front of me that shows you that children the way uniform perform better counsels our old you know we not even go into the realms of some kids have a nice a train and so can afford nice guys in uniform gets rid of all that uniform as an awful lot of benefits and I think you want to have your uniform some kind of watch of all the outright crowns of my school uniform I mean you know like say a modest go getting a scholarship to a posh thought you say the job I can hear the rebel in yeah let's go to the phone lines and carry on they want to rock and. By the way like yourself by mature quite early they don't want to hear you I was a boy 13 or 14 and I had a false step and jumped. Out of what Morton jail by glasnost I'd come on and they I see a lot of homicide Burns Well I just grew the beard I'd actually murdered their grammar school would have turned it came right after about a month of being at the grammar school be near had just the main meal among the morning every Monday morning was a very unclear disposable razor right. I agree serious and refuse told that because I was 18 years of age if I wanted to grow a beard I wanted to hear Yeah well actually they marched through the toilet one morning and stood behind man made machine. I meant the end of the day as like it's not really fair I don't think and fairness I I fought against them and I probably agree a lot of spite. But a lot of young boys don't have a choice that their hair grew. But the rules are the rules are the rules on the So if everyone else is complying with them why would you be different why would it be why should it be Ok if you do what you want the rules the rules why isn't the case against the walls or anywhere and facing them a couple of spec and earrings and bracelets and writings in their funders you know not going to call me your mother who wants to be around a lot. But it's not so there's no but I'm just saying wasn't the guelder like the 3 year olds are but when I'm on group sponsoring that's not so long it's been since it's seen as on tidy and on camp. I enjoy it. And I think if there are some very specific individual situations where a boy is really struggling to change every day maybe it's compromising his and that the court you know he's getting a problem for the skin or whatever I'm not saying that there can't be some discretion on a case by case situation what was time talking about is this this maverick abandonment of the rules because kids don't like all his life he does write that the rules say we're not getting off for a good abandonment Yes yes because I like the idea of a bond on the rules I work uniform plain and tidy up bottom dollar I'll show you his pile of shirts and also he wanted all because I got a bottle stubble it was painted I was all I don't get you know all day I haven't shaved in years I hid Shivan and it's very uncomfortable and I'm what 35 whenever I thought of Jim and I was probably about 13 it was very uncomfortable you're literally shaving your fierce and it was very sensitive skin that the point to that so that's a bit tougher now so it was nice it was uncomfortable and I tried to avoid doing on a daily basis point where I know I haven't she and I cover my face I haven't shaved and probably about 3 or 4 years and that's what Alex I'm on the next island Good morning to you want to Iraq and then I'm going to bed confused you were mentioning how will it affect your education how you dress which grew to just a lot of my late again for Alex I think you said that how does it affect your education is by how you dress that's go Well no for example we're talking less talk about the stubble so how does it affect you when you take on that Ok Ok So whatever well let's talk about then uniform if you prefer or I guess my question was How does that affect your ability to learn to do what it does help to do discipline discipline I don't think there's a lot of that homeless on top of it these days but at school discipline is essential is not always yes I do this you do that no I don't love her but I don't worry about that although that does not educating anybody when did you start to see of Alex I didn't start to shake us about so gosh. Sophist tame 16 what I remember but you know on the g.c. Of every day well being blown I didn't have much to show you really that we're here to see a double header just about jealous on that didn't bother me greatly. Alex thank you that I worry this morning I'm in a snit state where is that in current you from on a in the nicest country in the whole of Ireland will I not question not have you got a beard I don't have a beard but I have stubble as I shave twice a week because of my skin I don't have to play for the what what do you mean by that. My point being that is the most pathetic attention called cleverest that you have ever haired and the person unplanned is no better than a dictator. Is there any difference and them you know implement in and force in those rules the rules to say for example you can have him where he can go you can have a nose piercing or some swear words she lived into your head is there a difference between all those where I would agree with swear words shift in terror hair but haven't said Dr Ruth are meant to be broken. For could be important to turn to for help and stuff but I think it's pathetic to those with him what's on the screen another 1st lady agreeing with that loser rudeness Charles Dickens said the law is an ass Well that is the biggest truth I ever heard lots Angela enjoy you want to respond of odd. Loud Mouth great believe in everybody being entitled to their opinion what I what stays in all areas of of life we comply with uniform would you like coppers to have huge tattoos showing not wear uniform we we feel a certain level of protection and stability when we see a place officer in his uniform we expect people that we meet in professional life perhaps the consultant that we have to go and see at a hospital if he was in jeans with the slogan teacher chilling gum with 3 earrings the morning of course is entitled to expr