At the latest news and sports online at B.B.C. Don't slash 3 counties it's the J.B.S. Show B.B.C. 3 Counties radio Yes coming up today. Bands mobility scooters on the pavement are you'd like to see the same thing here. Is the soft penalties for flying. If you think we can do to combat that infuriating crime then of the 11 of course I'll deal with your consumer problems but. When the big fight do you think it's time to take bricks it away from the politicians and put it back to the people today Theresa May Well again trying to convince him to back her breaks a deal after she promised to quit as prime minister if it's approved. Last night the former Tory now independent M.P. Anna subring received a hostile reception in Parliament the she reminded her colleagues the largest number of votes in the House supported putting bricks it back to the people the prime minister's dealing with. 242 but. The amendment to mention Che supporting a student you got to 6 for 264. I'm beating all of them is the people spoke with. May I. Be. Here as well the former Labor now independent M.P. Tricker Muna has told the B.B.C. a People's vote he's the only way to clear up the mess created by the main political party preferring this back to your listeners to clear up the mess created here by the main parties is emerging as one of the most popular options it got the highest number of votes of all the options today and got somewhat more votes than the Prime Minister's own deal so I think a people's vote is in. Position going into the final stage of this process of the House of Commons making a decision well I'm very interested to hear your view on it when we've discussed the idea of having another say on this many of you have been very against the idea but now we've seen the politicians apparently unable to agree on anything is it time to take bricks it away from them and push it back to the people here's the number for your call for your reaction it's our right our right one double O.W.A. . You can text as well send me a text 813 double 3 Start your text or 3 C.R. Texas charged at standard network rate you can email me here at the B.B.C. J.V. a Show at B.B.C. Dot co dot U.K. Do you think it is time to take bricks it away from the politicians and put it back to the people you say today's big phone call. Or text 813 devils 3 star your message with 3 C.E.O. Takes to your standard message radio network provider. Local Radio prefers the Jay VS show B.B.C. 3 Counties radio so here's what happened in Parliament last night when Prime remain independent temp a on a subring confronted her parliamentary colleagues with the fact a people's vote has now become the most popular option for ending this BRICS deadlock the country is watching. And I gently say the only chance. Her is going to you know I think the sound system lousy is any party bill H.R. . Let's try to remind ourselves what we've decided to do nothing. And some of this isn't being installed in the debates and the discussions about the procedure from the outset very well people coming at the end of full at the. Well let's just remind ourselves it was the straw saying. Oh I can patronize it was. This visit 2 stage process here so today was our attempt to see if there was anything we could settle down but to look where the biggest folks may be the prime minister is. Secured 242. The amendment in motion she say supporting a customs union from 264260 formulators. Between all of them was the People's make. Mayor you seem to me. Were very interesting and I'm like to hear your reaction to all of this I mean we have now seen the politicians arguing amongst themselves they don't seem it would appear able to decide on anything certainly not at the moment so is there an argument that we need to have another go we need to be able to have another say on this so we can tell them we can be absolutely clear with those politicians what we instruct them to do or maybe you feel as if that already happened back in 2016 it's ridiculous to go through the whole process again. W. 8 Catherine in Milton Keynes Hello Catherine and now you good morning yes I'm good thank you so do you think it's time to take bricks it away from the politicians and put it back to the people I actually have you know I've marched like for people thought I was a law that. Couldn't get there but. I do think it's got to the stage where we have to have another. Another vote and I would regret that so I don't think it's a good place to be but I think it's the I think it's the way forward and also has remained supports as somebody who does know. I want to lose the membership of the you and all the benefits that come with it all I actually would be happy to say to stand up and say whatever the results of that referendum was I will I will then shut up if the vote says no we want to leave fine I think I think you know people seem to be some leave supporters seem to be very against having the vote and I think maybe that's because they think it would go the other way and they feel that that's. That's going to damage you know democracy but I can't see how it can I would I would if one happily go along with a result that went against what I wanted but I would go along with it because that is democracy but why can't you think go along with the decision that was given in 2016 I think that the. Decision in 2016 and you call it I mean and people treaty is if it's an instruction it is an advisory election I know it is an advisor estimate referendum you talk about instructions but but it isn't an instruction it's an indication of will. Always I think that the we cannot take that. The. So that's what I'm really upset that all of this should manikins around all the illegalities and all the wrongdoing around funding and. Data and so on I think they need to be thoroughly. Investigated and people brought to book if they need to be brought to book and hasn't happened yet I think I think the the lies that were told and so on might make that very very dodgy result but I'd like to point to New Zealand does when they have a referendum they have a process which automatically includes 2 referenda they have the referendum to start with saying what you want and they look at the results and they come up with a plan that would deliver the result and they explore all the potential outcomes and results from impacts of that and then they go back and have a 2nd round referendum so OK you said this this is the plan do you vote for the plan and I think that is a very sensible mature way to approach these things but of course you know they've Cameron slapped the referendum on the manifesto not thinking he would lose and so he didn't have a plan Catherine start there let me bring and we'll and then he's our economist spiked on the author of What women won't fund freedom and an end to feminism and does not support the idea what and why you will often Catherine because I'm a feminist and I love feminism morning good morning Alice morrow morning you have a kindred spirit in environment isn't but maybe not in regards to having a 2nd referendum or she will view taking it away from the politicians and putting it back to the people would you support not. Knives and wear bright advices that may used to being laughed at us nice surprise I'm not in favor of a 2nd referendum specifically because of what the lady just said that we have already had a decision made and the fact is that both remain both is on leave virtual took part in a referendum in good faith with the knowledge that the prime minister and the leaflet that was put through our doors that this would be a once in a lifetime but that this vote would be implemented and when we were ever wanted nothing referendum knew that this was accepted that this was going to be a result whatever happens now what remind voters want is a people's vote. And it's very disingenuous it's called a people's pope because if you look at any of the marches what I campaigning for is remain the idea that this is more democracy is a total farce at this point we are at the end of British democracy I think most anyone who has any knowledge of what the word democracy demo scrofulous people power means they know that this is not it a 2nd referendum would say to voters who took part in the referendum both would leave your vote means nothing don't get involved in politics you are not the kind of person that we should listen to I mean this is the future Britain that we want to live in really Catherine it resound democratic I think you know I know there's a lot of high feeling on both sides as well and I'm sorry I wasn't laughing at you I was laughing at the idea that women don't want feminism and I don't agree with that idea. But I would like to say that I don't think that democracy is coming to an end I think it has to go through some convulsions but but to say democracy is coming to an end I think it's a terrible sought to start thinking obviously nothing's on think bull but I think we need to hang on to democracy and I think that there's a vast vast number of people who feel that they're not. Being listen to a tall an all of the yes the 17200000 military the point let me finish the point there's a huge number of opinion polls showing that the think thinking has swung the other way that more people now want to remain and considerably more than actually voted to leave you know they're talking about 54 to 55 to 56 percent of people now saying they want to remain and I think not to give a 2nd dependent and yes I do campaign for him and I completely completely hold my hand up to that but not to give those people another say I think you would would be undemocratic I don't think we're going to agree on that. You know we certainly were in a gray and I think it's possibly because there's a there's a certain sense of willful delusion among people who support people but they agree invented the word democracy that made what democracy means is that you listen to the value of every person that's a race to raise Democrats those people power we have already had a referendum that was announced as leave and the people who campaigned to have a final fight to have another 3 but those that lost that sorry yes it really is a panel if you just read it in these terms if you put it in the person's right do we think that the people who should run this country and people who should run and decide politics all and the political class all are a band of middle class remind us Europe that all do we think that in a country that in a country in a democratic society everyone is respected if we have a 2nd lap around which is a rerun of what we are saying to working class ordinary voters in this country that they have no say in politics that is a very dangerous game to play I think I think all you know about playing it absolutely No I mean I actually think employees are a very wide range of people I mean if you let somebody somebody like Jeff Phillips they're all for remind women from from No I'm just not close here if you look at somebody like Jess Phillips who is working class woman from from Birmingham you know compared with somebody like Ray smoke. You know that there's a huge spectrum an awful lot of them all of the elite and it's an awful lot of the support leave because it's going to be good for them financially but but can I just take this point about their most precious because I think it's really interesting you're talking about people power because my feeling is that the people don't really have power we have we don't have that kind of democracy that you're talking about we have a we have a representative democracy where we vote on the 1st past the post system for our M.P. My M.P. Is not representative Moyne. 1st he's boasting the other way out of interest who is your M.P. Countering Lancaster Lancaster mills more marginal at Lancaster voted last night for no Deal or No Deal Exactly and I've actually well known him I ran to him saying please don't go for no deal please don't because it will send us over a cliff edge and it's not good for the country it's not good for anybody working class middle class probably good subjectively small but I do I actually think that the way our democracy works needs radical change we need to move to a proportional representation so that people when they cost their vote actually do feel that they are represented and then we wouldn't need so many referenda I think for under the. Not so great way of ruling to be honest with you I mean you know if you if you have a referendum on one thing why don't you have it on everything and then everybody gets a vote on everything OK thank you very much indeed to both of you Catherine in Milton Keynes and we learn who's economist spiked and author of what women want from freedom and an end to feminism Well I'm asking you today do you feel as if now the time has come to take bricks it away from the politicians who don't seem to be able to agree on anything and to put it back to the people or maybe you feel that would be so undemocratic it would have lasting consequences for evermore. The J.D.S. Show now plays as a one. Place. Chris is in illusion Good morning to you Chris Smalling Jonathan morning so do you think it's time to take breaks away from politicians and put it back to the people I don't think you think so you think resolve really think I think if it was one of the knives I was a breakthrough to so I think it will swing me a worry that won't mean without really fix problems without open doors box What do you mean by you think it will swing the other way you think you're well you've got you've got generally. It's well known that younger people bright eyed pushy tyo don't really know the full picture and they and they they see all the good about you you will come out come across like one let's not be patronized and I'm sure there are many older people as well or didn't really understand what nourishes is all about Charlotte when I say this they can read the flow is going with them and that they will generally majority will swing towards. Real 9 so you've got it's rap but I wonder 1000 per year the school so 2 years is certainly one of the half $12000000.00 I think it will swing the other way but what does that really mean does that really mean that that's a clear cut decision if you really want to prove you did the lady if you had one of them said. Overwhelmingly that lots of blacks did to change their mind to improve it by upping the fresh out from 50 percent to 6570 I'm not done with yeah I'm a Texan and I will happily go away and and and do to do well when else is and I won't have you know be angry over this but you don't have to up the pressure from 50 percent if we go that way the other night he said that we should we should have always been a 2 a 2 tier referendum should we have not done the sees a bit feasibility studies 1st if it really is economic disaster why did we do what is thinking beforehand so these are the very people we put in charge so just just out of interest Chris I mean we are I keep using this phrase on the program but it's true we are where we all sure you know where different people want different things but we have to work with the reality of where we are because we can't carry on as a country in a state of complete chaos and and indecision so something's got to be done I think now the politicians it would appear and obviously the idea of the indicative votes yesterday whether they would see whether there was you know any country or consensus. As for one particular idea and then I understand that the plan is that they then have another day of indicative photo Monday when they whittled down they don't have all those 8 different things to vote for they whittle it down to the most popular ones and then from those most popular ones they then come to a decision so what do you want to see happen from a realistic perspective now. If I mean what article Theresa May Still I think perhaps followed through because I think you've got to try to really stick to the 1st referendum I think any think he's going to sort of stick in the guts of those that voted to leave but that's very unlikely her deals going to get through I know yeah I just know I'm that comes back to the point you make quite regularly that parliament each and every one person has a completely different view you almost get the feeling that it's and half of them don't gel with their own constituencies so it's not like they can put the house up and say oh yeah I'm back in my constituency because in fact that wouldn't be true most of them are actually opposed to what their constituencies voted. So what we all read a mess and I've done if not don't think anybody could come in and see us a clear solution that one would deliver. And here wounds I think but yes yes when they are measured as Jonathan would throw in the ballot boxes because soon at some point this will happen this will have to be resolved and I personally think it's going to go and it's going to it's going to be kept in getting to the long grass we're going to remind and some point local elections general elections European elections will come around on the ballot boxes will the ruffed of those people that would be trite and even remain as well but it's when everyone feels but everyone feels betrayed I mean this is this is the problem I mean I'm friend. Example Chris you have you have many people who like yourself I should leave you look at politicians who you now think oh your You're not representing my wishes because you are supporting a 2nd referendum or you're supporting a closer alignment to the European Union and then there will be other constituencies I'll use this example earlier on a handy show of Hitchin and hope and been. Opened and voted overwhelmingly to remain in the European Union there's a very strong view in Hitchin and Harpenden the leaving the European Union is the wrong thing to do and yet the M.P. For Hitchen and Harpenden did not vote in favor of a 2nd referendum last night he voted against it so there will be people on the remains side who also look at politicians and think you are not representing my wishes this is not what I want yeah yeah and I mean I'm the think the consensus really from it's going to always be whatever we do a think going to be a fix it's going to be the Pandora's box that I think under is what started from day one when after the referendum we really started the by 18 was it was a good idea or not to have voted this way we should a shared united front teeth to be a year we took with it got probably a 5 year average sure could or would I mean isn't that the case we can all look back and say oh if we'd done this then everything would have been up to me and I've read that you know for food for perhaps maybe this should you know the people in parliament should really be representing their constituencies in respect to they way that they voted and that they they're not they don't represent. Why people voted suppress haps Harf why step is not going to resolve it perhaps a general election and let people go to the float and if you're in my life I don't really understand how a general election would solve anything. Because the 2 main parties are completely split down the middle. Whoever you elect I mean we're still left in the in the same predicament aren't we well not because I don't want somebody to stand up with a manifesto Dunstable I want the person to stand up and say you see what type of Brecht's to deliver me because I'm perplexed to hear if he says I'm not going to deliver that we're going to deliver a Rinnai in strategy then I won't vote that person at the site and at the same time so therefore we will get people that represent represent constituencies then you would have to renegotiate so we would have to have an extension but I put it to Allister I put yesterday on the program he put me under the spotlight and he said he threw it bac