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BBCNEWS Breakfast June 10, 2017

Care, education. And i think people are looking for something more positive, it does not have to be that way. They just thought they we re that way. They just thought they were going to win, didnt they . End of story. I think you can forget about brexit. These guys are from norfolk, we are at the Kenilworth Agricultural Show in warwickshire. Weve also got great people to introduce you to, to talk us through what has happened over the last 2a hours, and indeed, What Happens Next. Good morning its saturday 10th june. Were on College Green In Westminster for a special programme, as we look at What Happens Next after the 2017 General Election resulted in a hung parliament. Also ahead. Police reveal that the London Bridge attackers had tried to get hold of a seven tonne lorry, and that petrol bombs were found in the van they did eventually hire. Detectives are now appealing for information about the knives used in the attack. In sport the lions face their toughest game yet on their tour of new zealand, as they take on a crusaders side unbeaten in the league and containing eight all blacks. And philip avery has the weather. Good morning. It is an ok start to the day in sussex, but im afraid it is not like that everywhere. I will have the detail on the weekends weather in just a few minutes. Good morning. This is breakfast, live from College Green In Westminster. Our top story this morning. The Prime Minister is facing pressure from within her own party, as she moves to form a government with the help of the democratic unionists. Theresa mays failure to secure an outright majority has led to questions from some conservatives over whether she should remain in charge, and about what a deal with the dup could involve. Our Political Correspondent emma vardy has this report on the fallout from the 2017 General Election. A valuable result in the uks richest constituency. Almost 2a hours after the polls closed, it took a third recount in kensington took a third recount in kensington to finally reveal labour had taken this seat from the tories for the first time ever, and byjust 20 votes. It means the conservatives and the campaign with 318 seats, labourup by 30 and the campaign with 318 seats, labour up by 30 to 262. Now, theresa may is reaching out to the Democratic Unionist Party in Northern Ireland for support. With the ten dup mps, the conservatives will have a Working Majority in the House Of Commons. But there are early signs that for some, this will be an uncomfortable alliance. The dup is anti abortion, and Northern Ireland is the only part of the uk where Same Sex Marriage is not legal. Scottish conservative leader Ruth Davidson last night sought assurances that any deal with the dup rust not affect gay rights across the uk. Meanwhile, concerns remain over whether the Prime Minister can hold on. One senior tory has told the bbc she has to go. And this was the transport secretary, chris cook grayling, on question time. My view is that she should stay as Prime Minister for the foreseeable future. What was once sold as strong and stable now feels ever so shaky. A few minutes ago, the Prime Ministers former Communications Chief told us she was certain that some Cabinet Members would be considering mrs mays future. Im sure they will be looking at the long term, thinking, will this be five years of theresa may, or am i in witha five years of theresa may, or am i in with a shot . There will be people in the cabinet who will be backing the Prime Minister, because we are ten days away from the start of the Brexit Negotiations, and that should be the first thing on their mind. For the latest, lets speak to our Political Correspondent eleanor garnier, who is at Downing Street this morning. You would imagine many Difficult Conversations going on for theresa may. Particularly, are there other tory ministers and mps having conversations about who might be leader . There are, and thats why theresa may has come out of this election not with that increased majority that she was after, but instead fighting for her own role. Thats why we are Hearing Questions being asked about just thats why we are Hearing Questions being asked aboutjust how long she can hang on here in Downing Street. Conservative mp heidi 11 says she thinks theresa may has gotjust six months thinks theresa may has gotjust six m o nths left thinks theresa may has gotjust six months left here in no 10. Even one minister has said they cannot see how she can stay on. Thats why we are getting lots of questions about just how long theresa may can last in no 10. It looks like ultimately, this political gamble she took in calling the election hasntjust cost the conservatives their majority, but it is also costing theresa may her long time future. Lets just talk about what is going on with the conservative party and the dup as well what can you tell us the dup as well what can you tell us about these conversations . Well, theresa may needs to get a deal done with the dup as soon as possible, before the queens speech, which is a week on monday, which will set out the governments agenda, and of course the same day that the Brexit Negotiations start. There have already been concerns raised about a potential deal with the dup, overviews on, for example, marriage and abortion, but also over a potential problem when it comes to negotiations for Power Sharing in Northern Ireland, where typically the British Government acts as a neutral broker between republicans and unionists. So, this is going to bea and unionists. So, this is going to be a tricky thing for theresa may to get done, and the pressure is on, not just get done, and the pressure is on, notjust in terms of the timing, to get it done before next week, but also to keep all sides happy. Its been revealed that one of the London Bridge killers tried to hire a seven and a half tonne truck on the morning of the attack. Police say khuram butts payment failed to go through, so he hired a white van from b80 that was eventually used instead. Two more people have been arrested in connection with the attack. A total of eight people are now in custody. Heres our Home Affairs Correspondent daniel sandford. This was the weapon found still strapped last saturday night to the body of khuram butt. He and his fellow attackers used three identical Ceramic Knives to murder five people. Counter terrorism detectives want help, to find out where these knives were bought. The men had already killed three other people on London Bridge with a van hired from b q. Throughout the carnage, heroic members of the public tried to stop them. We have stories of people who came out armed with chairs, other items, throwing bottles, anything they could get their hands on, with a view to trying to prevent the attack is coming into pubs and bars, but more importantly to scare them off, to try and stop other people being attacked. Afterwards in the van, police found 13 petrol bombs, made with lighter fluid and cloth from tracksuit bottoms, as well as two blowtorches. The day had started with the ringleader, khuram butt, who was on police bail, trying to hirea who was on police bail, trying to hire a seven and a half tonne truck. He did not have enough money so instead, he hired the white van from b q instead, he hired the white van from b80 in romford, which they pick up sometime after 630pm. Then, leaving barking soon after 7. 30, they set offa barking soon after 7. 30, they set off a central london. At nine oclock they arrived in London Bridge, driving across it and back again, before ploughing into pedestrians on their third pass. By the time they crashed the van at seven minutes past ten, they had fatally wounded three people. They then used the knives to kill five more. At 16 minutes past ten, they we re more. At 16 minutes past ten, they were killed by police. There was a safe house, a flat in this street in london, above a row of shops, and it is here Police Believe they prepared for their attacked. It is ten past eight, you are watching bbc brea kfast. Eight, you are watching bbc breakfast. This morning, we are discussing so many things about the indications of the result of the General Election. We will talk about the dup, the future of theresa may, and what perhaps went wrong and what went right for people during the campaign. Labour has enjoyed huge successes across london, gaining marginal seats from the tories and increasing majorities elsewhere in the capital. In a moment, well speak to labour mp ruth cadbury, who improved her partys majority in Brentford And Isleworth by nearly 12,000, and the former conservative Housing Minister Gavin Barwell, who lost his Croydon Central seat and gave this emotional speech. Id like to say thank you to my family come to my mum and to my wife karen and to my three boys. If there is one up side to this result from my post, on a personal level, it is that they will get more of my time, that they will get more of my time, that they will get more of my time, that they so richly deserve, and im really grateful for the support that they have given me. And Gavin Ba Rwell joins they have given me. And Gavin Barwell joins us now. They have given me. And Gavin Barwelljoins us now. Also ruth cadbury mp, a0 of ale. Thank you both of you forjoining us. Gavin, if we can pick up your thoughts. Where did it go wrong, from your Point Of View . I think the results we re Point Of View . I think the results were particularly bad in london. Nationally, it is quite mixed picture. Clearly, we didnt get the result we wanted in overall seats, and labour share of the vote went up and labour share of the vote went up a very significantly. I think we need to give them some credit for that and understand howJeremy Corbyn managed to motivate people who do not normally vote to come out and vote. Definitely we could have runa and vote. Definitely we could have run a better and vote. Definitely we could have runa better campaign, and vote. Definitely we could have run a better campaign, but it is also about understanding why some people were motivated to come out and vote who do not normally do so. It is worth pointing out to people, in your constituency, you were defending a Majority Ofjust A06 to five votes, you ended the night with a majority of more than 12,000 votes. Is that correct . Those figures are correct. It is extraordinary. It was an extraordinary. It was an extraordinary result in Brentford And Isleworth, but in many, many seats across the uk. And it is a loss on to welcome so many new collea g u es loss on to welcome so many new colleagues to westminster, as we will be doing next week. It was a good result for labour. And it was a bad result for theresa may and the conservatives. I did overhear the two of you having a conversation before we came on air, and you were both expressing some surprise. I am not betraying any secrets there was an element of surprise from both of you what happened on the night . The numbers are incredible. I was beginning to feel an extraordinary wave of warmth and recognition in the last few days, and i thought, 0k, weve run a Great Campaign locally, and ibra getting to know me better, it has only been two years. But i didnt want to translate that emotional feeling into actual votes, but it turned out, it did. And there are a numberof but it turned out, it did. And there are a number of reasons for that, a rejection of conservative policies, a rejection of austerity, in our case, a rejection of brexit and hard brexit, a Good Campaign by labour and byjeremy brexit, a Good Campaign by labour and by Jeremy Corbyn. And i think you have already alluded to the youth vote, young people voting in number is they have not done before, and that has got to be a good thing. I think it is more complicated than that. The conservative share of the vote has gone up significantly as well. So, you have got to understand, theres Different Things which have happened. If you had said at the start of the campaign, we would have got a3 , that is not too bad, but nobody would have predicted labour would have got a0 of. Bad, but nobody would have predicted labour would have got 4096 of. The people use but two on the doorstep, what will change, do you think, from a conservative Point Of View, are they going to have to make changes to policy . I hope all politicians listen and learn from Election Campaigns. From our Point Of View, there are two main lessons in terms of why i lost my seat. Firstly, clearly we need to do better among younger voters. Second, labour did especially well in my seat amongst those who voted remain in the referendum. So we need to say, we are trying to get a brexit deal which brings the country together, addresses the concerns of leave voters and also others. Can you speak freely now . I could speak freely before resume you are still a member of the conservative party, but not a serving mp any more. Thats correct. When you saw her making her first speech outside thats correct. When you saw her Making Herfirst speech outside no 10, and she made no reference to the election at all, when you saw her recorded interview, when she said she was sorry to people like you but did not talking about the young people you have just mentioned, who possibly she should have token to spoken to, was your head in your hands a little bit . No. Were you thinking, here is a moment in time when you have to think differently and say Different Things, but she did not . I am a big fan, and as Housing Minister, iworked did not . I am a big fan, and as Housing Minister, i worked very closely with her and i know the qualities she has. But one of the difficulties is, in your profession, you have to reflect immediately on what has happened. And actually, the parties need to go away and look in detail at these results. London was the best area for labour, the conservative did very well in scotland, for example. We need to reflect, but it does not need to happen instantaneously. So, can she stay on as leader and should she stay on as leader and should she stay on . Yes and yes. We are the only party forming a strong government to take us through these Brexit Negotiations. I think as a party, we need to get behind theresa may, but the whole party needs to do that analysis and learn the lessons. Ruth cadbury, theresa may would have us ruth cadbury, theresa may would have us believe that nothing has changed, and in some ways, as far as the labour party is concerned, there is some truth in this trick you are still the party of opposition, you did not win the election, so in practical terms, what difference does this make . The early to say that theresa may should stay on i think is completely wrong. She was wrong to call the election, she was wrong to call the election, she was wrong in her response yesterday. There has been a clear rejection of conservative policies. Gavin is very respectful to his leader, but actually, we know that there is strong dissent in the conservative party about the campaign. Strong dissent in the conservative party about the campaignlj understand party about the campaign. understand that but that is not my question. What difference does it make that you have done better, you have still lost, and. And the Governing Party has increased its share of the vote. Well, it looks like we are going to have to continue in opposition for the time being, but we do so with confidence and unity and a strong bolasie mandate which is popular. And we will be back in parliament next week, and we will be pushing the conservatives on the basis of what people have told us on the doorstep over the last eight weeks. In the past you have yourself being critical ofJeremy Corbyn. What now . Well, i was clearly wrong. He has led a brilliant campaign, we have got a popular manifesto, its fully costed, it is what people want to see. Will you get behind him now, then .

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