governments what can be done? i think it's an entirely collaborative process. i think about it about trying to move a heavy dresser across a room all by yourself, you move it, go to the side, you move it back and i think that's kind of the way public and private sector work together in this space. it's for the public sector to show the way with regulations and the like, and it's for the private sector to respond with solutions. and to show that these things are possible. how much is big tech to blame for climate change? well, ithink, you know, everyone�*s to blame for climate change. this is a shared socioeconomic problem. i think when you look at tech, the tech sector itself, where you really see the impact is around energy use. so, you know, tech is obviously driven by electrons