in court by her accusers. i'm not saying that they are lying — i mean, you know, it may well be that they were victims of jeffrey epstein. but i do not accept that they were victims of ghislaine. that's my position, and that's also her position. again, many listeners and viewers were concerned. kate hahamis wondered: again, the bbc put out a statement in response, but this time defending the broadcast. it said: it added: we did want to talk to someone at the bbc about those two