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BBCNEWS Outside Source October 29, 2020

We start in france where president Emmanuel Macron has denounced a knife attack that killed three people in a church in nice as islamist terrorism. Speaking from the scene he warned that france was under attack for its values. Have a listen. Translation once again our country has been struck by an islamist terrorist attack. Three of our fellow citizens we re attack. Three of our fellow citizens were killed at the notre dame facility here in clearly, the whole of france is attacked. The attack happened here at the notre dame basilica atjust after 9 in the morning. The details are grim. Police say one of the victims a woman was virtually beheaded and another man suffered deep wounds to the throat. Heres what happened next. Police stormed the basilica and shot the suspect. Were told he had also stabbed a third victim, a woman. She fled to a nearby bar, but died of her injuries. Chloe mathey and her partner live about 50 metres from the church. This was her account. We heard many people shouting and we knew that there were many, many policemen coming and we heard many shots and more and more policemen and we did not see the attack. Tom vannier is a journalism student who was filming at the scene shortly after the attack. This is what he told the bbc. The church, at the bank this morning, and in front of this church, it was a very big symbol that stands today. We saw a woman who knows the members of the church and she was crying and lots of people came here and cried because of the attack. In paris, parliament was sitting to discuss covid 19 measures as news came through of the attack. Proceedings were put on hold as politicians observed a minutes silence to honour the lives of those lost in the attack. Within hours Emmanuel Macron arrived at the scene raising the National Security alert to its highest level. Heres what else he said. Translation we decided to raise the degree of vigilance to adapt to the terrorist threat. I decided in the coming hours, our troops to be increasingly mobilised and we will go from 3000 to 7000 soldiers deployed across the country. That means we will be in a position to protect our places of worship, particularly churches so that all saints day can be celebrated in the right conditions. In 2016, the city was rocked by a terrorist attack when a truck ploughed through crowds of people celebrating bastille day and the notre dame basilica was a place where many would pray for the dozens that were killed there. Our correspondent Lucy Williamson is there. Well, here, notre dame is full of security. Teams are still working inside and passersby here when they passed the church, they stop, they stand for a minute and silence. The city already bruised by a major terrorist attack four years ago. World leaders have been condemning the attack in nice. The European Union president ursula von der leyen has said the whole of europe stands in solidarity with france and remains united and determined in the face of barbarism and fanaticism. British Prime Minister Borish Johnson tweeted this message in both english and french i am appalled to hear the news from nice this morning of a barbaric attack at the notre dame basilica. While pope francis tweeted i am close to the Catholic Community of nice, mourning the attack that sowed death in a place of prayer and consolation. There have been other incidents in france today. One of them happened in nearby avignon, in the district of monfavet. Police shot dead a man who allegedly threatened passers by and police in the street with a handgun. And in lyon a young afghan man allegeldy armed with a long 30 centimetre knife was arrested as he attempted to board a tram. Police say he was already known to them. The incidents come at a sensitive time. France is still reeling from the beheading of french teacher samuel paty earlier this month in a suburb of paris. Mr paty had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in a class on freedom of expression. Muslims believe that any depiction of the prophet is blasphemous. In wake of the attack france vowed to crackdown on what it calls radical islam. French police launched a series of raids targeting islamist networks. They also shut down a major mosque and some muslim aid groups. And interior minister Gerald Darmanin vowed there would be not a minutes respite for enemies of the republic. Europe regional editor mike sandersjoins me now. What do we know about the suspect, what path will the investigation take previous attacks in nice. The document at the scene, he is a 21 year old tune ms. En. Checking the identity please believe he entered italy on september the 20th with some people smugglers and he was detained on the island for m days, held because the coronavirus restrictions. He was then transferred and he seems to have entered france in early october. Investigated both in france into an easier, theyre looking at this and trying to find out where he was between entering france and allegedly making this attack. That is the kind of mind of inquiry theyre looking at. What we expect theyre looking at. What we expect the pappas investigation to take . We know that if that name is correct, he was already under investigation in italy for illegally entering. That means she wouldnt have chance of political asylum. He is not claimed asylum and the worry is that actually coming in as a migrant, or did he come expressly to carry out an attack and that is the kind of line will be looking at. It will be the first time and because the lc tunisian, who entered italy in 2011 and he went on five years later to commit the attack on the Christmas Market in berlin in 2016 when he drove a lorry into a market and killed 12 people. Turkey has condemned the attack in a statement, its Foreign Ministry said there can be no reason to excuse the killing of a human being and justify violence. It comes as the french governments attempt to crack down on radical islam has angered turkey and other muslim countries. Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a boycott of french goods. The situation worsened after a cartoon on mr erdogan appeared in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo this week. Heres Cagil Kasapoglu from the bbcs Turkish Service on the response from ankara. Will make the Foreign Ministers from quick to react because france and the policy over separatism, islamic separatism has been on top of the agenda in turkey because we see that he is representing himself as the defender of islamist values over the world and even yesterday, we heard him say that the western leaders, countries criticising mohammed and making caricatures or launching a crusade. So he sees himself as the main defender of islamist values. There have been protests against president macrons defence of the cartoon in several muslim majority countries. These pictures are from southwest pakistan. Large crowds gathered and set pictures of president macron alight. This is mali. Thousands gathered in the grand mosque in the capital bamako. And this is iran. A protest was held outside the French Embassy in tehran. Our middle east correspondent martin patience has tweeted and hes included a tweet referencing the lebanese president s response. Lets hearfrom martin now. What is interesting about the middle eastis what is interesting about the middle east is that in some ways, we are seeing a muted response. Yes, we have seen some french goods taken off this supermarket shelves and yes, we have seen some small scale protests a nd yes, we have seen some small scale protests and we saw the incident earlier today in saudi arabia when a french guard outside of the consulate in the coastal city was attacked, his injuries are not believed to be life threatening and it still isnt clear what the motivation for that attack is. But there is anger in the middle east because they feel that the president has not respected islam by defending the french cartoon, defending the right to publish pictures of the Prophet Muhammad and many muslims, including moderate muslims find that insulting and his position as untenable. Next lets hear from Nabila Ramdani a french Islamic Affairs journalist in london. Mocking islam into domestic policies, we have seen images portraying the Prophet Muhammad is a pathetic figure who is there to be marked along with all the followers of islam. In the establishment. But macron has changed all that, he would not renounce the caricature and were defended as part of french culture and is part of france global image and by doing so, macron had effectively made the caricature mainstream and indeed, normalised and some and this is what president macron said today. Translation mac. If we have been attacked again, its because of our values and taste for freedom. To believe freely and not to give in any terror. Let me say this very clearly again, we never give in. Jeremy bowen is our middle east editor. Why is france being targeted like this . Well, the main nexus of this seems to be president erdogan of turkey versus president macron of france. It is not the first time words have been exchanged. I think you can say that president erdogan, for us to target a european leader, on these kinds of issues, islamist issues, his support, his own desire i think to present himself as a leader of muslims. Then, he might choose president macron because that there have been disputes about other things, france support for armenia in the current battles because the turks have been very much supporting the other side as well as that, the dispute over mineral rights in the eastern mediterranean, decrease,. Something much more fundamental going on and that she had been hearing, people, muslims are very insulted by cartoons that defame their profit. But, at the same time, for the french and for the french state, the principle of secularism, the principal of the separation of religion and state and particularly as well, the principle that if they wa nt to as well, the principle that if they want to mark religion, any religion, they are allowed to do it. That is something that is just as fundamentalfor them. Something that is just as fundamental for them. So, it something that is just as fundamentalforthem. So, it is something that is just as fundamentalfor them. So, it is hard to see where they come together until maybe the dies down a bit. Looking at the war where is going on, to seem like much indication of the moment of this calming down. No. There is not. I think it is a little ways to run and heaven forbid there will be more attacks but i think that the french have gone through a lot of this kind of thing in the past few years and it is something that clearly Emmanuel Macron is sick of and the french are as well and in turkey there is speculation that parts of his own agenda is to try to present himself as the perhaps, more right of centre supporter of french nationalism while at the same time, erdogan is seeing himself for being seen as someone who is playing his own brand of games. But at the end of it, there are strong currents going on in the world which result in these kinds of things happening. A tiny minority of people carrying them out, but an enormous, apart from spreading human misery, they have enormous political residences as well. Big news in the uk the man who was labour leader until april this year, Jeremy Corbyn, has been suspended from his own party. Its after a report found that labour was responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination againstjewish members while he was in charge. Mr corbyn said he did everything he could to tackle the issue, but added today that the scale of the problem had been overstated by opponents. That didnt go down well. Our deputy Political Editor vicki young has more. A year ago he was trying to be Prime Minister. Today, Jeremy Corbyn is suspended from the party he joined more than 50 years ago. Shame on you this time in charge was turbulent and divisive. Jewish mps said it was his fault they were bullied out of the party. Today, the organisation set up to legally protect equality concluded there had been serious failings in the way labour dealt with anti semitism. In response, mr corbyn seems to suggest the problem had been exaggerated, prompting the dramatic step by his successor. I made it clear we will not tolerate anti semitism or the denial of anti semitism through the suggestion that it is exaggerated or factional and that is why i was disappointed withJeremy Corbyns response and that is why appropriate action has been taken, which i fully support. When mr corbyn was leader he repeatedly said that anti jewish hate would not be tolerated. But last year bbc panorama interviewed several former staffers who said the problem was being ignored. I do not think the labour party is a safe space forjewish people any more. Labour is not an anti racist party. The report finds the party was responsible for three breaches of the equality act, including harassment and failure to provide training to handle complaints. And most significantly, blame was put at mr corbyns office door, his staff had interfered in decisions about whether to investigate claims. I find this report hard to read. And it is a day of shame for the labour party. That was sir Keir Starmers response but mr corbyn struck a different tone, suggesting he improved things and made it easier to cut out anti semites but he added that the scale of the problem was dramatically overstated for political reasons by opponents and the media. And it is that statement that has punted his suspension. Very shocked and very disappointed. I have been in the labour party all my life. I want to make it absolutely clear. Anti semitism has no place whatsoever in our party or our movement. I have opposed it and racism in all its forms all my life and that is what i have made clear during my leadership of the party and i will make clear today as a member of parliament and proud to be won. To be one. For this jewish former mp who resigned from the party, mr corbyns words are not enough. I can point to a catalogue of things he himself said and platforms he shared that were anti semitic and he has shown no contrition in the response he has issued today, denying many victims experience, jewish party members, who have suffered great pain and distress over the last couple of years. When he took over as leader, sir keir starmer promised to bring together the warring factions of the labour party. Todays move is unlikely to do that. There are now only five days left until the us election. Todays focus is florida where both candidates have been out on the campaign trail. Donald trump won the state in 2016 by over 110 thousand votes. This is crucial ground. Heres a bit of what both candidates have been saying. This is historic prosperity. Another major tax cut to go along the biggest tax cut in the history of oui biggest tax cut in the history of our country. In record job growth and joe bidens plan is to deliver a punishing locked on. Hes gonna lock you down. Donald trump is given up oii you down. Donald trump is given up on the weekend, his white house chief of staff said, and i quote, we are not going to control this pandemic. The debate last week, donald trump, he said we are rounding the corner, it is going away. We are learning how to live with it. No, he expects us to learn how to die with that. That is what i told him. He is doing nothing. We are learning how to die with that in donald trump is wave the white flag, abandoned our families and surrendered to the virus. Donald trump is still behind in national polls. This is the bbc poll tracker, showing joe biden is leading nationally by 9 . However in florida, its a much tighter race with mr biden leading by a narrow margin. Florida matters because it has 29 Electoral College votes the third highest, behind california and texas. Remember, whoever become president needs 270 votes in the Electoral College to get the seat in the white house. Is 7. 3 million have voted so far it that figure was just over 9. 1 million. This time next week, we should know this time next week we should know who won florida, but exactly 20 years ago it was a very different scenario. 2000 was the year that it took more than a month to confirm George W Bush as the winner after his race against al gore. Its a story re told in the fiasco podcast by its host leon neyfakh he joins us live now. What is it about florida that makes it such a battleground in every election . Sure. Florida is a special state, eve ryo ne sure. Florida is a special state, everyone knows where it is what it looks like it everyone knows disney world. But politically, what matters is it is a really diverse population and politics tend to manifest themselves down there. Donald trump needs to turn out noncollege educated white voters and joe biden needs to flip suburban voters and thats how it is run the country. Of florida also some demographic groups that are pretty unique. Like, a large cuban American Population in miami that means republican. In florida is really important because it is 29 votes in the Electoral College, so even though through the camp taking a complicated campaign there, it is still worth the effort. Could we see another 2000 when legal and political battle went on for 36 days as you document in your podcast . U nfortu nately, unfortunately, i think we should be prepared for. Both campaigns are absolutely gearing up for a prolonged legal fight over which ballots will be counted and which would be thrown out. These issues pppin9 would be thrown out. These issues ppping up would be thrown out. These issues popping up of the country now, Supreme Court cases by pennsylvania and wisconsin and elsewhere, covid 19 means that there will be a lot more mail in ballots coming in and we know that donald trump is ellis have been trying systematically to convince the supporters of these pellets are legitimate. I do not know

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