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BBCNEWS Outside Source November 11, 2020

Well have all the latest coronavirus developments across the world. We will talk about the uk to pass 50,000 deaths. Almost sent three neck 600 people died in the last day. In italy. And italy passes a million virus cases after a huge spike in infections 32 thousand were recorded in the past day. Extraordinary pictures from poland. There is far right rally taken place. Despite the ban on these type of events because of the pandemic. We are going to be live in warsaw. President donald trump has appeared in public for the First Time Since election night. He attended a veterans day ceremony at the arlington Military Cemetery close to washington. He did not speak to the media. The president Electjoe Biden also attended an event in philadephia. Hell meet with his Transition Advisors today. On tuesday mr biden said the transition was underway in spite of President Trumps refusal to concede. And he added this. Ijust think its an embarrassment. Quite frankly. The only thing how cani quite frankly. The only thing how can i say this, . I think it will not help the president s legacy. I think that i know from my discussions with foreign leaders thus far that they are hopeful that the united states, Democratic Institutions are viewed once again as being strong and enduring. Four days since his defeat President Trump is refusing to concede despite showing evidence. Many republicans support it. Lets look at how. The white house has instructed senior government leaders not to work with government notjoe Biden Transition Team for millions of dollars normally provided to aid in transition have not been released. And theres no immediate prospect ofjoe biden giving the customary prospect ofjoe biden giving the custo ma iy a ccess prospect ofjoe biden giving the customary access to classified information for the senior republican Mitch Mcconnell had this message for people who might be concerned. think we ought to quit all the hand wringing and not act like this is extraordinary for that we are going to get through this. And we will swear in the winter onjanuary the 20th, 2021 just like we have every four years since 1793. Except by any measure, this is extraordinary. The defeated candidates in us president ial elections almost always concede immediately once the winner is projected and if a new president is taking over, the Outgoing Administration cooperates. Donald trump knows this because back in 2016, barack obama met him to discuss their handover before all the votes were verified. Thats not happening this time though. In fact its the opposite according to secretarty of state mike pompeo. There will be a smooth transition to a second trump administration. We are ready. The world is watching whats taking place. We are going to count all the votes. When the process is complete they will be an elected or selected. There is a process the constitution lays out pretty clearly. And mike pompeo is not alone. We think 49 out 53 republican senators have yet to congratulate joe biden. And all of this, the lack of concession, the lack of congratulations, the lack of co operation, its all rooted in Donald Trumps claim that the election has been stolen. Heres Mitch Mcconnell again defending his position. If any major aleut regularities occurred this time of a magnitude that would affect the outcome then every single american insured want them to be brought to light. And if democrats feel confident they have not occurred, they should have no reason to fear any extra scrutiny. We have the tools and institutions we need to address any concerns. The president has every right to look into allegations entered request recount. Under the law. Into allegations entered request recount. Under the law. Note senator mcconnells language he doesnt repeat President Trumps allegation but asserts his right to make his case. 0k but for how long must americans and joe biden wait for any evidence to be offered . Its been a week and still nothing. The desire to present all of this as normal and proper is coming from a range of republicans. This the house whip steve scarlise tweeting. But while the election isnt technically over it is over. The results are formally certified in december but the vast, vast majority of votes have been counted and its very hard to see how the winner changes. Joe biden has established leads in the states he needs. For example, in pennsylvania, he leads by around 47,000. For that to be wrong, that would mean we are witnessing either the greatest administrative error in us electoral history or the greatest fraud. And if thats the case, mr trump is keeping the evidence to himself. Certain leaving the havent got any. Indeed look at this. The New York Times headline, the times called officials in every state, no evidence of voter fraud. Or theres former newjersey governor one time trump ally chris christie. He told abc friendship doesnt mean that youre blind. Some republicans would appear to differ. And this of course is a political calculation for many republicans. They know mr trump won over 70 million votes. They know how loyal his base is. And they know mr trump regularly turns on people hes worked with and that hes quite capable of falling out with Political Parties too. The stakes are high for the Republican Party and were seeing different approaches. Some say go, montanas secretary of state says. Others like senator mitt romney are being diplomatic. I think its fine to pursue every legal avenue that whaen has. But i think one has to be careful in the choice of words. I think that when you say the election was corrupt or stolen or raved that that is u nfortu nately stolen or raved that that is unfortunately rhetoric that gets picked up by authoritarians around the world. I think it also discourages confidence that our democratic process here at home. And the some like senator ted cruz are all in. Telling fox news. He offered no evidence that anyone is setting the stage to steal an election. But lets be clear many Senior Republicans are not telling the president to stop with all this. The former repubican South Carolina governor mark sanford is unimpressed, saying. And this is the former republican Senatorjeff Flake talking to the bbc. Hes still commands a lot of support and dedication on behalf of the base. You can see that by how many are still sticking with them. People that know better. Lindsey graham, he knows better. Ted cruz, they know better. Why havent they said anything . They look at the base he controls and they dont want to run afoul of that base. But thats a former senator, and a former governor beforehand. This week the Washington Post published an article full of anonymous quotes from people still in theirjobs. One senior republican official says. And this is calculation for republicans how to handle a president who wont accept that hes lost when all the evidence suggests that he has and how to gauge the impact on american democracy and their party the longer this goes on. Lets speak now to lisa rein who covers the federal government for the Washington Post. How do you assess how the Republican Party is playing this . I think your previous guests have set it right. The republicans in washington in power, they know thatjoe biden has w011 power, they know thatjoe biden has won the election. But in a sense they are coddling the president and they are coddling the president and they are coddling the president and they are worried about the president s babies who they also need to depend on for support. Senator ronjohnson was in the senate yesterday and a reporter asked him, are you going to acknowledgejoe Biden Victory . Ronjohnson is a staunch supporter from wisconsin and he said, we dont know thatjoe biden won the election. I mean, whats interesting is that fox news, the conservative, very, very closely watched Television Broadcast watched by tens of millions of republicans. Has called the election forjoe biden. This, ithink has called the election forjoe biden. This, i think this will be eventually resolved but it is sort of viewed as an effort to kind of help the president. Theres also another factor which there is a runoff that is coming up in a few weeks in georgia. A runoff for it senate seats. If these senate seats are won by democrats, that would tip the balance of power in the us senate. There is some thinking that republicans are trying to stoke the base of conservatives in georgia who they want to come out this special election. Especially when trump is not going to be on the ballot that that might help them. Do we have any insight into what americans make of the point your country has reached . Are they as tolerant as the republicans we are hearing from and say look, just like the process play out . I think, im say look, just like the process play out . Ithink, im what say look, just like the process play out . I think, im what youre seeing in the aftermath of the election is very much a reflection of what we saw in the voting. People here across the country, depending on whether you are in red corners in the country or blue corners of the country are completely divided. Every time i write a story about the problems with the transition, and we can talk about whats happening in the government, i get hate mailfrom Trump Supporters who say that im not acknowledging in my stories that biden has won the election. So i think the country is completely divided. There are all kinds of groups popping up divided. There are all kinds of groups popping up here in dc that are actually raising money for recou nts are actually raising money for recounts that dont seem to be able to go anywhere. Or change the results. It also comes from the top down, right . The president has not conceded to joe biden. Down, right . The president has not conceded tojoe biden. His supporters see that and really take that and that becomes their view also. Ijust want that and that becomes their view also. I just want to be that and that becomes their view also. Ijust want to be really clear on one point, in the Washington Post discussions with push eight in washington there is a difference between what they are telling you off the record and what they are willing to say publicly. Thats right. My colleagues have talked to many republicans including Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell staff as well as republicans themselves. Who are saying, we just cant say it out loud. We know biden w011 cant say it out loud. We know biden won the election but we arent worried about our own futures. Because donald trump is going to be a very big political presence in this country for years to come. He may run again for president. They are worried about the wrath of donald trump. We will see what happens. That is whats happening a week after the election. We will see how this unfolds. Things may change. Could to have it on the program. There were almost 23,000 new cases reported today. That takes the total death toll in the uk be on of course, those numbers are stark in their own right. More so when seen in the context of what the government chief scientific adviser said at the start of the pandemic in march. So if we can get this down to numbers 20,000 below, thats a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get in this outbreak. A still horrible. Then in april we learned what was considered the worst case scenario. Heres reuters at the time has lining, uks worst reuters at the time has lining, uks woist coronavirus reuters at the time has lining, uks worst coronavirus total is 50,000 dead but uk is not on course for that. Now we know the nations death toll has passed that figure for that figure for top the bbcs Health Editor is hugh penn. That figure of just over 50,000 is those that have died within 28 days of having a positive test. There is a broader definition covering others that who may not have had a test at all where covid is listed on the death certificate. That figure for the uk is now about 61,000. Whats the International Comparisons relative to uk is pretty high among those leading economies. Belgium, spain and brazil have a higher death toll relative to population. But the uk is ahead of the us and france and well ahead of germany. Of course, each country does measure these things in slightly different ways. Will have to wait a bit longer for whats called excess dance. Thats everything over and above a long term average. Case numbers and new hospital admissions, if you look at those charts they do appear to be flattening a little bit. Thats our lagging indicators, reflecting indications picked up a few weeks ago. Health officials do say this death figure could rise for a couple of more weeks. Next lets look at italy. Its reported almost 33,000 new cases today which takes the italian total death toll past one million. The government last week imposed nationwide curbs including a curfew. These pictures are from florence. Tuscany and four other regions have been designated as orange zones that means bars and restaurants are closed but shops remain open. People are free to move within their towns and cities but not leave them. Next the three countries with the highest number of recorded cases. Doesnt take population size into account that you can see the us india and brazil outweigh a habit of eve ryo ne india and brazil outweigh a habit of everyone else. India and brazil outweigh a habit of everyone else. To the us next. There have been more than a million cases recorded there in the past 10 days. And theres been another record for the number of covid 19 cases in a single day. This graph shows the number of daily cases over the past week. The latest 24 hour period saw more than 136,000 new cases recorded. The bbcs correspondent nick bryant puts that in context. Thats 25,000 more cases thanjapan has recorded in all of 2020. Hospitalisations in the us are at the highest level since the start of the pandemic. Anthony zurcher, dc. Im interested to know how america calibrates its response to the pandemic with a president in the white house with a quite different view of theirs to the president elect to is coming in. Its a challenge but its responsibility has always been under this administration fallen on the shoulders of state governors rather than directors from the president , and administration itself is that what youre seeing right now is State Government fleet not governments and cuomo in new york starting to impose new restrictions on size of gatherings, how late in how crowded indoor restaurants and bars can be. In north dakota see Health Care Workers are in such short supply there that they are going to start allowing Health Care Workers to return to the job even if they had tested positive for coronavirus as long as they are asymptomatic. Each governor is doing something a little differently and they are all kind of striking their own path. We have discussed in the pastis own path. We have discussed in the past is a challenge when its not only just past is a challenge when its not onlyjust a National Crisis but a global crisis. If the president elect is more assertive when it comes to the pandemic and there are signs that he would like to be, can he insist that those governors who are perhaps not introducing as many restrictions as some others need to change what theyre doing . Not directly. The president doesnt have a whole lot of direct authority to say and that nation wide map requirement. At present trump has not done is require amounts on things like interstate commerce. There are times when its relations between states the federal government has more power. There is also indirect pressure that in administration, of federal government can put on states because there is a significant amount of federalfunding there is a significant amount of federal funding that goes to state ona federal funding that goes to state on a wide variety of areas. If you start threatening that funding then there is a potential that state governors will begin to snap to attention. Joe biden has talked about aggressive steps but he is going to have a challenge trying to bring some of these recalcitrant governors around. Thats the situation in the us. Thats the situation in the us. India now. Cases are rising rapidly in delhi and doctors there have told the bbc they fear a medical emergency. And this is happening as millions of people prepare to mark diwali this weekend. Despite these pressures, the government has ruled out a second lockdown. Rajini vaidyanathan is in delhi. Covid cases are rising at a record level in delhi. Icu beds are fast running out. And pollution related illnesses are also fuelling demand. Doctors have told the bbc indias capital is heading towards a medical emergency. I am extremely, extremely worried right now. Its a horrible time. If cases dont fall, if cases increase substantially i shudder to think what will happen and how we will manage those cases. These scenes are far from intimate as millions prepare to celebrate the festival. Shops have been thronging at some of delis markets. The fabric of this nation is built on social connections but this quieter market we visited there was no appetite for a second lockdown even as cases climbed. Its very crowded outside so we are condensed. Its a festival. With cases rising do you think there should be a a lockdown . No, they should not be a lockdown any more now. Because there are number of cases which getting recovered increase. People are tired of this. People want to get out of the home. This is a time but we can step out. But shoppers arent stepping out like they usually do. Traders told me they are struggling. For us poor people there is no diwali, she tells me. Weve gone bankrupt. Weve been suffering for the last eight months. We cant afford food or clothes. There is no safety net for millions of this nations poor. So far the government resisted a Second National lockdown. The

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