i run a small business. i am absolutely fed up with the immature backstabbing between parties. it is undermining your credibility, please get on with yourjobs. hi, iam mark from luton, i am worried about affordable housing for local people and building on all of those green spaces. hello, i'm selma. i'm from edinburgh. i'm not happy with the choices we have for next prime minister. jeremy corbyn — weak leader, weak opposition. theresa may — maybe here, maybe there, maybe nowhere. if she is not prepared to stand on a platform and take questions from her peers and the audience, then she doesn't deserve our votes. i have got a progressive option in scotland. i am not voting for either of them. i am voting snp. applause. hello. good morning. welcome to the programme. we're live until ”am this morning with an audience of 120 people, and live on stage at the grove theatre. you can see the empty auditorium behind us. we wanted to get everybody together so we've put everybody on stage. it was 41 days ago that theresa may surprised everyone by announcing a snap general election. campaigning was suspended last week, as you know, after manchester's campaigning was suspended last week, as you know, after manchester's devastating terrorist attack which killed 22 people. since then, security has dominated the agenda, with labour and the conservatives at the weekend both promising to bolster counterterrorism measures. i want to get a snapshot view really from some of the voters here. in light of what happened in manchester one week ago, is anybody going to change their vote? good morning. hello. my name is charlie, i am from luton, i run a small business. i have lived in england for 30 years and the last election i voted conservative. following the manchester bombing and the subsequent talks between the parties, i am looking at, i don't want to carry on with the policy of bombing middle eastern countries and then trying to defend ourselves with security services here. it is plainly not working and jeremy corbyn is starting to cut through with me that there could be another way and i'm interested in what labour say on this. that's clear, thank you. i am derek, on the basis of at least 10,000 new police officers, jeremy corbyn has promised, but where is this money coming from? diane abbott coming out with figures all over the place. it is a good idea but are the figures going to change with her hairstyle ? dominic raab for the conservatives, formerjustice minister. your home secretary seem to suggest an interview yesterday that this country would face greater risk of terrorist atrocity in jeremy corbyn was prime minister. do you agree with? i think that is true. why? there are a range of things that we said we would do. increased counterterrorism police, bring more than 200 into the counterintelligence agency is a more vigorous pacing and monitoring of the online space and also prosecuting uk—based djabi is that go out into the battlefield abroad. i think leadership matters and blu ntly i think leadership matters and bluntly as i can and this kind of the as i can, i do not think if you compare the leadership theresa may offers, five years as home secretary, can the grass defence of oui’ secretary, can the grass defence of our security with jeremy corbyn, who has had a political lifetime supporting the ira. in 2009 he described hezbollah members as his friends. i do not think a man who is event of carers is the man to us against terrorists. emily thornberry speaks for the labour party. he has been associated in the past but gerry adams. that is a problem for his leadership, isn't it? jeremy corbyn's approach is a clear one and thatis corbyn's approach is a clear one and that is that we need to talk to people when possible. that is in order to find common ground in order to try and find a way forward. did you accept his associations... do you accept his associations... do you accept his associations... do you accept that his past associations means that he had a problem when it comes to national security? i think for fair minded people that is not true. people know that he was representing a community that he was representing a community that had a very high proportion of irish people. within the 1980s something had to be done and he was involved in trying to bring people to the table. look what happened, we got the good friday agreement. daesh isjust a death got the good friday agreement. daesh is just a death cult. got the good friday agreement. daesh isjust a death cult. there is no negotiations with guys like that. when you can find a common purpose, work with people and do not be afraid. ryan evans. community policing is important because those policemen have to use to the ground and can build local community relationships, they have the ear of the local people. -- diane evans. your policy of wanting to ban the barker, does that help better protect them? not per se but it is about integration. the problem we have at this debate is that politicians are trying to put forward very simplistic solutions and none exist. this is something that we have to tackle at the ground level and from a security perspective and that the very least make sure that we keep our people safe, we have to tackle it... as a gentleman said, integrating communities better and i am pleased to hear you say that there were some elements of the muslim community that need to work harder at that. we have to look at immigration as well because under the labour government we opened up the borders to people with diverse views. the bomb last week was british, born in manchester. he came here fleeing colonel gaddafi. so we should have known that his offspring would have ended up...? the nhs and social care is one of theissues the nhs and social care is one of the issues people most care about the issues people most care about the of this election and the political parties know that. we have all promised to various degrees of extra funding. when your party was in government with the conservatives in 2010, you cut £4.6 billion from social care. how much is that contributed to the current crisis? undoubtedly. the cuts in social care which were started a number of years ago have contributed to the problems we face today. the question is, what do we do about it? we have said that we need to put a very specific proposal on tax that funds social ca re proposal on tax that funds social care and health and that is why we are saying there should be 1p on income tax so that you ring fenced money going into health and social care that is sustainable in the short—term, in other words, the next parliament, but thereafter you have a dedicated health and social care tax based on national insurance. everybody is in, everybody benefits. love, yes or no, the lib dems are proposing 1p on income tax, would you support that? yes! dominic... you certainly cannot have a solution without money. there might be other things you need to do but without doubt you need the money. dominic raab, what about theresa may's capitulation only social care plan published in a ma nifesto social care plan published in a manifesto which she changed a few days later? i would not characterise that as capitulation. how would you characterise it then? about dementia, we will ask millions more over the age of 75. that is happening in the near future. over the age of 75. that is happening in the nearfuture. if over the age of 75. that is happening in the near future. if you can afford to contribute, that is an important principle. there are two safeguards, they cannot have those assets come down a—level where you cannot get £100,000 to your family. the second safeguard is a cap on... that is what i am asking you. we have said that we will consult on that and the reason is that someone always pays for this. and when people say the state should step in, it is taxpayers who will receive an increase in income tax. i do not think that the lib dem plan is liable but i respect that they are trying to tackle it. we are the only ones who have set out a credible financial solvent way of dealing with this issue. emily has spent her whole response to the gentleman's question not setting up the position of the labour party. we are the ones with the costed manifesto, you do not have that. you have no costings in your manifesto at all. where is the £8 billion that you claim you are going to put into the nhs? you have not even tried. let us deal with what the ifs has said. we were the £8 billion come from for the nhs? we will have realterm increases each year, rising to eight billion and the last year. where will that come from? the whole thing is...i will that come from? the whole thing is... i will come will that come from? the whole thing is... iwill come back will that come from? the whole thing is... i will come back to you, emily. we have set out a range of tough decisions and that is why we are getting stick about this winter fuel allowance. that will pay for the £8 billion? you look at the packages on the round. i would expect that overall you have a sensible package on the finances. we are trying to ease the burden on families. so some savings from the winter fuel allowance. i am giving you an illustration of the difficult decisions like telling you that we would not be subsidising free school lunches for well—off parents, we do not think that is a great thing to do, we would rather the money went into teaching and the nhs. we have made the difficult decisions. does that add up to £8 billion? you must look at the savings in the round. we are taking tough decisions like... hang on, we mention the ifs, that is the independent institute for fiscal studies, they have suggested your plans to raise something like £49 billion in taxes, you have miscalculated and if you think having worked it all out, it will be something like £41 billion, that is a big shortfall. when you promise people buildings and tens of billions for the nhs and social care, you will not be able to raise it. we have said that they are being very pessimistic about this but we think that our measures will work and we're happy to talk to the nhs about it. within our manifesto there was room as having underestimated the amount we have raised in taxes. we are happy to talk to them and with our manifesto we would also like the others for budget responsibility, a government body and we said this about our previous ma nifesto and we said this about our previous manifesto and this one, they will a lwa ys manifesto and this one, they will always be fights about this, let the obr always be fights about this, let the 0br look at our manifesto. —— 0ffice for budget responsibility. it is given this as its job and we have said we are happy to engage with the ifs or the said we are happy to engage with the ifs orthe 0br said we are happy to engage with the ifs or the 0br but that look at both ma nifesto ifs or the 0br but that look at both manifesto is let them see what they have. i am fuelfrom manifesto is let them see what they have. i am fuel from aberdeen. manifesto is let them see what they have. i am fuelfrom aberdeen. i have. i am fuelfrom aberdeen. i have a disability activist primarily. there is all of this talk, you are all talking about numbers and money and there is a notion of suffering under the act. oxford university just released research saying that in 2015 alone in england and wales alone, there we re in england and wales alone, there were 30,000 excess deaths caused by cuts to health and social care. tens of thousands of disabled and sick people are dying every year. we are digging, there have been hundreds of suicides. i spent 48 hours after the la st suicides. i spent 48 hours after the last general election trying to talk people out of killing themselves and idid not people out of killing themselves and i did not always succeed. people are dying here. and nobody cares. let the conservatives' dominic raab respond to that. there are plenty of heartbreaking stories and no one could fail to be moved by that. we have put 11,000 more doctors into the nhs, 12,000 have put 11,000 more doctors into the nhs,12,000 more nurses. hold on. we have a renewed focus on mental health and also trying to make sure we take the pressure off of big cost little stanney ma nifesto. of big cost little stanney manifesto. but the real truth is that the money must come from somewhere and it is very easy... let him respond. it is very easy and i can think of lots of things that i would like to avoid making difficult decisions on and on lots of errors by the nhs and schools where i would like to put more money in but unless you have a strong economy creating the revenue, it is a childless wish list. we have tried her best to get the balance right between responsible public finances and targeting those crucial errors that you have discussed. so you choose to sacrifice tens of thousands of disabled people for the sake of that. this is the second richest country and the world. there is a choice that people make in scotland, for example, we have a block grant and they still manage to create a health service which functions. they still managed to create a care service that functions. and you are choosing to sacrifice others. why would you scrap hs2 and give £5 billion to the disabled instead? it will only benefit your rich friends and help you get to read ten minutes quicker. this morning we have talked about security, the nhs and social care. as you know, it is almost one year since the uk voted to leave the eu. setting up the chain of events which have led to this general election. talk about brexit dominated the early part of the campaign. let me ask all of you, we would you find the money to pay our brexit liabilities? brexit costs the country, we will be poor as a country, we will be poor as a country every week and if we are left without a deal, it will be catastrophic for some sectors of our economy. so, here, in this part of the world, if we found ourselves without a deal and had tariffs on all of the goods going back and forward , all of the goods going back and forward, making those vehicles, the impact would be disastrous. how would you pay our brexit liabilities? the brexit liabilities compared to the overall cost of brexit are a relatively small part. iamjust brexit are a relatively small part. i am just asking you where you would get them for, had you can any thought into it? what we would like to do is, we believe that the chance of getting a deal which is better than our current position is as near to the role as makes no difference and therefore the people should decide. 0k, and therefore the people should decide. ok, i understand, you will not answer that question. go ahead. if we get no deal, we are back to trading on world organisation terms and if you are talking about tariffs, that is a windfall of £12 billion to the treasury. we are quids in. you are assuming that it will collapse, even the financial times this week has had to report that investment into the uk has not fallen as a result of brexit. this scaremongering must stop. people voted and it is about time the lib dems got behind it. a £12 billion windfall to the treasury, i am tell you. john, the snp. i have spent some time in germany because i sit on the house of commons select committee and we are doing a report on brexit. the things concerning the german politicians is how chaotic the conservative government ministers here are in terms of preparation. david davis turned up toa preparation. david davis turned up to a house of commons select committee and he said he had not priced the cost of leaving for the uk. i think we're going to get a tough brexit deal, terrible for the uk and the reason that theresa may is holding this election now is because she wants to silence opposition because she knows that when we know the details of brexit people will be furious. a quick word about immigration. suzanne evans, pipe -- about immigration. suzanne evans, pipe —— due to want to bring net migration down to zero over the next five years, when one person need you will let one hand. that is not how it works. it is about balanced immigration, zero net immigration to give our country time to recover and oui’ give our country time to recover and our public services time to recover. so over a period of five years, we have approximately the same number of fee will be leaving the country and that is between about 250000 and 300,000 every year and the same coming in. we will still invite to britain around about 300,000 people each year and we will choose the brightest and the best and the people but the skills that we need and the people who will contribute to the economy and to look after themselves. the kind of thing that labour politician frank field has spoken about four years. if britain need surgeons, spoken about four years. if britain need surgeons, we spoken about four years. if britain need surgeons, we will bring them on. the problem that we have at the moment... you will not have to wait for someone to emigrate before you allow a foreign surgeon in? for someone to emigrate before you allow a foreign surgeon mm allow a foreign surgeon in? it is rolling over a five—year period. what about restaurant and bar staff? what about restaurant and bar staff? what we have discovered... these are jobs that british people can do. why are they not doing them now? because they are being undercut in terms of wages. excuse me, can i finish? in scotland, we have a population that is full of immigrants, we need immigration. michael gove said that one of the advantages of britain. was that we would be able to set our owfi was that we would be able to set our own immigration policy, not heard much about that since! the latest net migration figures are 248,000, is that the right level for the lib dems? it does not target the point, it is what the economy needs and the economy needs doctors, nurses, people working in a horticultural sector. good morning, whitehead. i am mary ann and retired and chief childminder to the family. i just wa nt to childminder to the family. i just want to say, if things are improving so want to say, if things are improving so much under the tories, why are so many people using food banks? go on, mark. like you have said about food banks, also, like you said, you are the main child carer. this is what people have to do. if it was not for out people have to do. if it was not for our parents, my children's grandparents, we would not be surviving. if it was not for them, their help, you know, you look after your kids kids, so you are looking after their grandchildren. so, you know, this is the cost. dominic raab, people think that it is really tough under the conservatives. raab, people think that it is really tough under the conservativesm terms of the food bank issue and i have studied data from the trussell trust, what they find is that the typical user is not someone by wishing in poverty at some of the cash flow problem. no, it is true. that is what the trussell trust is seeing and its data. the trussell trust would be outraged by you telling us that. a lot of people on low and middle incomes are feeling the pinch so we have taken 4 million of the lowest paid out of income tax altogether. £1000 each year they get more than 2010. and we are trying to get the economy that creates the jobs and wages and make sure that people get more of the money. to clarify, dominic, you are telling the country here on this programme that the trussell trust, who deal with poverty, called you personally that the problem with food banks wasn't people who are on the bread line and people who are having cash flow problems, i am dying to hear from them when you have said that. what they do is keep data that the update quarterly and annually on the reason people are coming to their food banks and that is what was said. people go to the banks because their salaries are not increasing, people cannot save money, people are in crisis, people are on low wages, people who are on benefits are having to use food banks. did you think anybody in this country should have to use a food bank. we are at the sixth richest country in the world, it is an absolute disgrace! emily thornberry, labour. it is a disgrace. emily thornberry agrees with you. but the ifs, we have quoted them a lot, they have pointed out that if the labour party were to win this election, the poorest 30% of household would suffer a significant hit to their incomes because of cuts to benefits, many of which you are not promising to reverse. we are going to raise the minimum wage to a proper living wage so minimum wage to a proper living wage so that those people. so that those people who are in work and getting benefits as well. you going to reverse cuts to childcare? we have got £2 billion each year over a five—year period of the government. iam five—year period of the government. i am trying to answer you, victoria. iam giving i am trying to answer you, victoria. i am giving you specific cuts that the tories are going to make and i am asking if you will reverse them? we have to build in pounds set aside each year over a five—year period to reform the benefit system and to make sure that we stop cuts like we have talked about specifically, the debian tax, the benefits cap and the reason that we have set this money as it is because we need to look again at the benefit system and the unfairness, the clear unfairness that we have heard talked about today. can introduce you, ladies and gentlemen, can i introduce you to helen pankhurst, who is the great grand daughter of emmeline pankhurst? and as you know, the granddaughter of sylvia ankersen, leading lights of the british suffragette movement. hello. thank you for this engaged discussion, with interesting. there are many difficult issues and so emotive. the solution is not to not vote. for all of the reasons that in some way i represent with the positive response that you had which is an epitome of why we need to have argued how difficult it has been to get your and we are hoping that baton at the moment and we need to hand it onto the next generation and we cannot just say it is too complicated, it is too difficult, we will not it. as individuals, right now, it is a bit like being in a jigsaw puzzle where everything has been strewn out there and we are individual bits of that jigsaw puzzle and we either do not form a collective, we do not form pa rt of form a collective, we do not form part of democracy or our little colours and values all slot in and maybe we do not like the overall picture, but our little voice in their is present and counted and measured, so please, for the sake of the past, for the sake of the present, for the sake of the future generations and for being part of that collective, that one moment where we are asked to really be part of our democracy, vote. absolutely. cheering and applause ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. do give yourselves a round of applause. thank you for your time today. we are back tomorrow, join us then. hello, good evening. overthe hello, good evening. over the next day or two we will find cooler and fresh air moving and across the uk. at the moment that fresh air is somewhere away towards the north—west and we still have this very humid air across the uk that has been bringing with it some storms in the early hours of this morning. that southerly breeze has been pushing the showers northwards today. and whilst we have not releasing anything sandri for a while, it has been quite immeasurable and damp tea across much of the midlands, wetter weather moving northwards across scotland. still some storms across the channel and they could cut some southern parts of the uk but the tendency is to push the wetter weather northwards, most of it heading out towards the north sea and becoming drier overnight but hanging on to a good deal of cloud with humid here, so temperatures perhaps 13 or 14 across a good part of england and wales. the chance of more sunshine on the b on tuesday. by the morning, most on the b on tuesday. by the morning, m ost pla ces on the b on tuesday. by the morning, most places will be dry, still a fair bit of cloud around, particularly across the east and south of england but we should be able to break up that clouds during the day. across the north—west, some showers loitering and feeding in for the irish sea. eastern areas of scotla nd the irish sea. eastern areas of scotland dry, mr glazer ‘s, northern ireland and western fringes of scotland's inhabitants of rain for first thing on tuesday morning. that wetter weather comes on that weather front, we have the cooler and fresh aircoming in front, we have the cooler and fresh air coming in behind it. ahead of it, sunshine developing, one or two showers, most of the rain coming and eastwards a cross showers, most of the rain coming and eastwards across scotland. shaurya bursts across england and wales and sunshine after heavy rain for northern ireland. getting into the fresh air, temperatures returning to normal, still once and humidity for the eastern areas of england, 22 or 23 degrees. we're all getting this cooler and fresh air on tuesday, so a more comfortable night for speaking, single figures across the northern half of the uk. the fresh airover northern half of the uk. the fresh air over the northern half of the uk. the fresh airoverthe uk around northern half of the uk. the fresh air over the uk around the middle pa rt air over the uk around the middle part of the week, high pressure building in and settling down, an area of low pressure to push that went into the north—west. for wednesday and thursday across england and wales, chances are it will be dry, still quite warm and knees and zhang, 23, 20 4 degrees. change coming in more towards the north—west on wednesday, fine weather for scotland and northern ireland, sunny spells as well, rain pushing into the west of scotland and the west of northern ireland. this is bbc news. the headlines at eight. police release a picture of the manchester bomber carrying a blue suitcase, asking whether anyone saw him with it between the 18th and 22nd of may. greater manchester police search a landfill site near bury in connection with the attack. a zoo keeper dies after a tiger entered an enclosure at hamerton zoo in cambridgeshire. british airways chief executive says he's sorry about the disruption caused by a global computer meltdown but says he won't resign. we will make a complete investigation, we will find out what happened, we will make sure this never happens again. also this hour — tributes to the legendary blue peter presenterjohn noakes, who's died aged 83.