Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Week In Parliament 20170722 : vi

Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Week In Parliament 20170722

In yemen is out of control, with over 300,000 people affected. The country has been racked by civil war and an intervention by saudi led forces for the past two years. As a result, Government Health services have collapsed. The White House Press secretary, sean spicer, has resigned, reportedly because he was unhappy with president Donald Trumps appointment of a new communications director. The new appointee, anthony scaramucci, a former wall street financier, denied there had been tensions over his appointment. The palestinian president , mahmoud abbas, has suspended all official contact with israel, as the crisis grows over additional Security Measures in the old city ofjerusalem. Three palestinians were killed in clashes with Israeli Security forces. Three israelis have been stabbed to death in a west bank settlement. Now on bbc news, time for the week in parliament. Hello there and welcome to the week in parliament. On this programme, the last Prime Ministers questions before the Summer Recess sees Jeremy Corbyn and theresa may going to battle on some familiar themes. 3. 8 Million People in work are now living in poverty. We created the National Living wage. That was the biggest pay increase for people on lowest incomes ever. With mps and peers heading off on their summer break, we ask three experts what we have learnt from this parliament so far and what we can expect in the future. Also on this programme, the government announces its bringing forward the date when the State Pension age will rise to 68. There is a balance to be struck between funding of the State Pension in years to come, whilst also ensuring fairness for future generations of taxpayers. But first, there was a rowdy end of term sort of feel to the last Prime Ministers questions before recess. The labour leaderJeremy Corbyn focused on low pay, but began by highlighting splits at the top of the government. The chancellor, philip hammond, had appeared on tv a few days earlier, saying some senior ministers were briefing against him because they didnt like his views on brexit. That had followed Press Stories featuring comments hed reportedly made during a cabinet meeting. RemarksJeremy Corbyn seized on. Mr speaker, the chancellor said this week that some Public Services servants are overpaid. Given the Prime Minister has had to administer a slap down to her squabbling cabinet, does she think the chancellor was actually talking about her own ministers . I recognise, as i said when i stood on the steps of Downing Street A year ago, that there are some people our country who are just about managing. They find life a struggle. That actually covers people who are working in the Public Sector and some people who are working in the private sector. And thats why its important that the government is taking steps for example, to help those on lowest incomes through the National Living wage. Its why we have taken millions of people out of paying income tax altogether. Its why basic Rate Tax Payers under this government have seen a tax cut of the equivalent of £1,000. Can i invite the Prime Minister to take a check with reality on this . Mr speaker, one in eight workers in the United Kingdom, that is 3. 8 Million People, in work are now living poverty. Why doesnt the Prime Minister understand that low pay is a threat to an already weakening economy . The best route out of poverty is to work. Thats why it is so important that over the last seven years we have seen 3 million more jobs being created in our economy. Whats important for government as well is to ensure that we do provide support for people. Thats why we created the National Living wage. That was the biggest pay increase for people on lowest incomes ever. When did the labour party ever introduce the National Living wage . Never. That was a conservative government and a conservative record. I look along that front bench opposite, mr speaker, and i see a Cabinet Bickering and backbiting while the economy gets weaker and people are pushed further into debt. Ill tell the right honourable gentleman the reality. The reality is that he is always talking britain down and we are leading britain forward. The snps leader At Westminster turned to the pensions of the so called waspy women. The Prime Minister has found up to £35 billion for Hinkley Point c Nuclear Power station, up to 200 billion to replace the trident missile system, and one billion for a deal with dup just so she can keep her own job. She seems to be able to shake the magic money tree when she wants to. Can the Prime Minister now end the injustice for those women who are missing out on their pension before she herself thinks about retiring . We have put £1 billion extra into this question of the change of the State Pension age to ensure that nobody sees their State Pension age increased by more than 18 months from that which was previously expected. And i have to also say to the honourable gentleman that the Scottish Government, of course, does now have extra powers in the area of welfare. And perhaps. Perhaps its about time the Scottish Government got on with the dayjob and stopped talking about independence. Theresa may. Parliament has been back forjust over a month sincejunes surprise General Election. Theresa may was returned without a majority and was forced to strike a £1 billion deal with the dup. The change in her electoral fortunes has left mrs may at the mercy of her own backbenchers and tightened Jeremy Corbyns grip on his party. It promises to be a parliament with plenty of fight and of course theres one big subject on the agenda. Roslyn ball reports. A two year parliament, but a pared down queens speech with one big agenda item. Presentation of bill. Mr secretary davis. Mr minister baker. European Union Withdrawal bill. With brexit talks under way in brussels, Opposition Parties claimed the Uk Parliament has been left with little to do. And in isnt the european parliament, however much mocked in this country, showing the mother of parliaments just what parliamentary control looks like in the modern era . Its ability to veto the brexit deal means that the other institutions need to front load information to the parliament, so there have been seven Position Papers against one from our government and unfortunately parliamentary scrutiny in the Westminster Parliament is still rather unstructured. We have just completed an election where we have asked people to vote for us. As a parliamentary democracy, they expect us to debate and vote on motions that were relevant to their lives 31 days ago. 0ur Constituents expected us to come back straightaway to work. Instead after the gracious speech, there have only been seven votes. This parliament is already being dubbed the Zombie Parliament. I actually think that that comparison would actually give the flesh eating undead a bad name. This is turbo charged political zombie ism. Pete wishart. So those are just some of the issues which are going to shape this parliament over the months to come. And to discuss all of this, i am joined in the studio Byjill Rutter of the institute for government, professor ian begg of the London School of economics, and by the constitutional expert professor vernon bogdanor. Vernon bogdanor, is pete wishart right . Is it a Zombie Parliament . From one point of view, it is a Zombie Parliament in that it is deadlocked. There is really no majority for any controversial legislation at all. And both of the major parties are internally deeply divided on the major piece of legislation, which is, of course, the european Union Withdrawal bill. But from another point of view, you might call it the backbenchers parliament, because any backbenchers with proposals which achieve consensus can get their measures through. We have already seen an example of that in the proposal by Stella Creasey that women who come from Northern Ireland to secure abortions on this side of the irish sea can have them paid for by the taxpayer. And that was accepted by the government for fear of losing the vote. There may be other similar measures. The great danger with that, of course, is that both of these proposals are for increases in expenditure, which is difficult for the government to resist. So the chancellor of the exchequer in this backbenchers Parliament May be even more beleaguered than he would be normally. All right. Ian begg, lets talk a bit about brexit, then. How, as far as we can tell, are the political shenanigans and the parliamentary shenanigans At Westminster being viewed from europe . I think i could sum it up in one word. They are perplexed. They cannot fathom what were up to. I am regularly in other European Countries and the question i am constantly asked is, why are you so insistent oii shooting yourself in the foot in this manner . And what comes over is a sense of not understanding what britain wants, which is very clear in the stance that has been put forward in the negotiations, and not knowing what kind of finalite, the outcome britain wants to achieve from it. All right, noinll rutter, were going to see the great repeal bill as it used to be called, the eu withdrawal bill, being discussed properly for the first time in september, when mps return from their summer break. So how far is the Civil Service over the summer presumably going to be working flat out to try to make some sense of what this bill is going to do and where parliament can go with it . Well, the Civil Service has been trying to work out what to do with the bill since the referendum, basically. Theres been a long task to try and identify both what legislation needs to be brought over, but also how to put that into law, and we have seen that with the repeal bill, which was actually ready for Introduction A Month or two earlier because it was ready for before the General Election, so what the Civil Service really has to be getting on with is notjust the legislation. There are seven other brexit bills that need to be drafted on agriculture, fisheries, customs, trade, all those issues, so we need seven more, and i think those are in a less state of readiness than the repeal bill was. Then there are all the Statutory Instruments that need to go under scrutiny. We have seen an estimate from the department on the eu that there will be. These are the changes that ministers can make. These are the things that actually give effect to the changes because the repeal bill is reallyjust more of a shell to give ministers power to make those changes in law when they decide what they need to do. And some of those depend on the outcomes of the negotiations, so the real meat of the repeal bill isnt in the clauses that people are going to start debating in september. It is in all of the Statutory Instruments that the ministers are going to be bringing forward. And vernon bogdanof, the fear that has been expressed already by some of the nations but also by some backbenchers is that these ministerial powers are a great, Fat Power Grab by the government. Absolutely. Statutory instruments dont get the sort of scrutiny that primary legislation, that is bills, get from mps. And the great danger is that this is a transfer of power not from the European Union to parliament but from the European Union to the executive. Now, the governments view is that the repeal bill is dealing with essentially mechanical matters. It is just transposing european law into our own legal system. But perhaps it is not quite so simple in some cases, because what after all is the analogous British Institution to say the European Commission . Where do you find the analogy in britain . So there are political choices to be made and where there are those political choices to be made, mps will understandably want to scrutinise precisely what choices are being made and not hand ministers too much power. Meanwhile, ian begg, lets talk money. Over in europe, one of the first things on the agenda is the divorce bill and what it is going to cost us. Where are we going to get to with that . Well, if i start with where i think it will finish, i believe that we will get a settlement of the order of 30 or 40 billion euros, not the hundred billion euros that is being canvassed in the press. The reason it is contradicted is that if britain withdraws on day one of brexit from paying into the European Union, it receives a hole in the eu budget. And that would apply to other net contributors, particularly germany, to pay more. And jill rutter, presumably the government this end trying to negotiate that figure down to is close to zero as they can get. It will be trying to negotiate it down as close to zero but its not actually put a red line on that one which is quite interesting, given the other areas where we have seen the Government Draw red lines. Because i think they realised, precisely every zones ian says. That this is one of the cards in our hand to actually secure other things we want. At the end of the day, we can have some flexibility on money, we can use that to improve other parts of the exit offer. So i think ministers will try as hard as they can to avoid being held down, while talking quite tough and trying to anchor to a lower figure. Lets look at one issue where we have had a lot of chatter already and that is the status of the eu nationals living in the uk. Now, the House Of Lords so far, we havent had a lot of noise from them but this is a subject they care passionately about. Is this going to be one of the first battles for the lords versus the government in brexit . Well, it might well be, but it seems to me the government has put forward a reasonable position on which there can be negotiation. There are problems about families and so on but those matters can be discussed and dealt with. And i think, there, the eu will have to back down. I think they have been, frankly, a Little Ungenerous towards theresa mays offer which i think was a reasonable and generous first step. And no doubt it can be improved with negotiation. So, if you think that the eu nationals issue will be settled, if you were a government minister, what would you be looking out for as the flash points particularly in the House Of Lords . Well, the House Of Lords, i suspect, will want us to remain in the internal market and in the Customs Union which theresa may at least has said we shouldnt do. She was very clear in her Lancaster House speech that brexit means brexit and she means by that we should be out of the internal market and out of the Customs Union because in her view that would make us the satellite or colony of the eu, that is we would have to accept much eu law but without any role in formulating it. Now, the House Of Lords may take a different view, and the labour party in the commons may take a different view. And the Business Community may take a different view. There will, i think, be serious clashes with the House Of Lords because they are dealing with a minority government. The House Of Lords is even more strongly remain than the commons. It is worth pointing out that the House Of Commons not only has a majority of people who voted remain but an even larger majority, given the increase in the number of labour mps, and ev

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