around a lot of different people. and when i decided that i needed to create characters, ijust kind of thought back to people i'd met, or people i'd seen, because, you know, i wanted to... i wanted to be in theatres and stuff. and if you weren't, you know, a good auditioner, or you were not as sharp as some, but there were things you could do, i had to find a way to show what i was able to do. you say you went to a lot of free public projects, lectures, museums, but what about theatre, which is not free? well, it wasn't free, no, you're right. but it was free sometimes in the evenings, becausejoe papp used to have a travelling theatre company that went around new york city and did all the great shakespeare plays. new york shakespeare festival mobile theater is here tonight at 8pm at madison and ralph street.