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We will discuss the main internal political and International Topics that are being discussed in our country and in the world. Well, lets introduce the guests and Dmitry Aleksandrovich zhuk, the head of the holding from belarus, today olga on shpilevskaya is the director of the Representative Office of the stc of the world in belarus to lead the belarusian. Uh, the womens union, so to speak, german political scientist Andrei Krivosheev directorate. Minsk news, a denier of the Belarusian Union for journalists and Alexey Belyaev until the end of the faculty of journalism of bsu, a candidate of historical sciences. Good evening, we will discuss several key topics today. Although it seems to me that they shouldnt voice it every time, well talk about the same thing, in general, everything is mixed up, what theyre discussing and it all comes down to ukraine. To a special operation, the conflict is like, uh, the turning point of the world. How can it be for me . Do not agree with me that some such culmination of ukrainian history may already be approaching. Although, uh, we are expecting a lot of tragedy. I have the beginning of the end. The beginning of the end. Thats right, they picked it up, i have this feeling, i dont know, how will it all end . Im still an optimist. Yes, i hope e doesnt reach nuclear weapons. But these are not all the surprises that she is preparing for the Russian Federation , uh, its time to call this a nato war with the Russian Federation. Its very funny when americans and europeans say that they are not involved in the conflict with the Russian Federation while supplying weapons. There the photo ends up in the video. The generals are dying. Eh, soldiers and supposedly mercenaries well, we know what a mercenary is, they are former soldiers who have just retired or having quit a long time ago is a very dangerous moment for me. Unknown. How long can this continue, because. Well, there still must be some red lines. These are the missiles that they are going to deliver to ukraine atakamsk, yes, in my opinion, thats what theyre called, but you hear these things are far away, theyll reach. And if this happens, hmm, lets remember putins phrase about the fact that we havent started yet, and the Russian Federation is not at war with ukraine, it is conducting a special military operation, because if it were at war with ukraine, it would not have come out Vladimir Zelensky is already at the General Assembly this time. He wouldnt squeal like a fool, and everyone else, you understand what im talking about, remember this story that the president told. Why dont you take kiev . He says, how will i take it if they are in kindergartens or schools, uh . Uh, should i hit an Educational Institution with a weapon . Well, the situation is extremely difficult, but its also becoming unpleasant for ukraine. The scandal erupted in relations with poland. And then the General Assembly of the organization just arrived. United nations, uh, zelensky wearing his green uniform. His team went there and, admittedly , an unpleasant surprise awaited him. Why , too, you and i will discuss at night the curious situation with poland. We have been discussing here all the time over the past years that any relationship between poland and ukraine ends in the same conflict between these two countries and peoples, often with a massacre. Eh, they often argued about the section of speech. Well , how will it be this time, lets see more about the elections the day before, theres a whole lot of crazy stuff going on there, were back again we are preparing a series of reports, we are watching in horror, what is going on there on television, of course, i have never seen this before, listen to Democratic Free public tv. Tvp pumper Andrei Evgenievich knows a member of the European Union is simply mocking his opponents over ordinary citizens and abovepolitical opponents. Destroy. This is insulting, some people are leaking it. Uh, the word doesnt give things to the other side. Everything is in the best traditions of the totalitarian regime, komi. I think duda and maravetsky and kachinskys regime is like that. About fate. E ukraine i. Now i remember. Uh, one fragment of the speech. On the sixteenth of february 23 , Andrei Evgenievich still remembered what awaits ukraine, but then after that he will say. Lets listen to what the president said. Six months will pass, a year, and, god forbid, peace negotiations will begin, uh, russia and belarus and ukraine, listen about them in general , you know, theyll go away, uh, the question is, and theyll leave just like that Volodya Zelensky doesnt understand, hes destroying ukraine, no one will restore ukraine will. You see, tomorrow a new pressing issue will appear somewhere on the planet and go there. Everything will be turned around and everyone will be tied up there, they will forget about ukraine and it will be in a dormant state. These people who are left will struggle, it will take 100 years to restore this ukraine, in order to restore it, no one will help the president , as the water looked like a new point of cleavage, where africas attention is shifting, frances withdrawal from africa is, for france, a National Economic catastrophe, because they are losing Raw Materials for their Nuclear Power plants. They new channel, which they were calculating for the supply of, uh, gas to europe through just uh, north africa, thats where attention is already shifting to the showdown between india and canada , the trade war between china, the technological war, the political war in the usa, poland, uh, and im bringing the economy to the point of how zelensky flew to the usa more than once. We dont really care how he flew off, we dont care at all. I am glad that , or rather saddens, that he was warned and this will end, no conflict has started yet over grain because there are a couple of million there, probably tons. They are with poland and arrestovich. There he almost proposed to go to war and it has already begun. Uh, conflicts, of course. Eh, i would also remember the words of the president , uh, which he said two years ago, probably , that the time will come. This is already an average horizon when it is possible, belarusians and russians will have to save western ukraine from assimilation of colonization by poland, here it is happening poles against the backdrop of this grain scandal, which has little to do with purely economics, but more to do with internal polish politics, because farmers are on strike, it has already been announced that the latest weapons. Poland has not transferred to ukraine since 24 , preferential benefits for refugees from ukraine are not provided; moreover, poland will expel ukrainian men en masse so that they can participate. Well, lets see, but in the ukrainian house, who is the master in the ukrainian house . Why are the owners in the lenin house . Sorry Dmitry Alexandrovich, ill interrupt you for a second to say about the fact that the discord, of course, between the big ukraine it turned out just yesterday, they were throwing statements at each other, and everything was as it is, in fact, that is, yesterday. It seems to me that their true feelings, their true relationship to each other, were revealed directly. What it is, but, apparently, the United States was on time and told to stop, because if we talk about it today and is melting, the other side slowly began to backtrack and talk about what he misunderstood, this is not so. First. Yes, this one didnt broadcast it right, it was something, its not from that opera, but ill sit down, yes, but we saw how their relationship develops directly. Eh, why are you surprised . Rhetorical antagonists poland and ukraine for many centuries, two large european nations that compete are the two largest european sedov producers, which is why the conflict over agricultural products, everything is very clear and no matter how biden or the Washington Regional Committee gives some kind of fight, this antagonism. He will remain and will not go anywhere, plus memory , plus memory about the rubberized warrior, the same volyn. Yes, the poles did not forget, they did it looks like this topic has been relegated to the background for now. All this will warm up, but the most important thing. And what is real. Around the world , donors are tired and tired of supporting, lets say, well, several tens of billions would be infinite, its impossible. You understand, as was now expected from ukraine. Eh, something breakthrough. That is, the counteroffensive, which was very widely announced, is then very widely covered, where they talk about it. So we liberated one there, the populated area around it is swelled by victory. And at the same time they remain absolutely silent about those real tens of thousands of casualties, which were only during this relatively small counteroffensive. Ukraine has remained silent about, uh, where these billions are disappearing. E in the form of military assistance, how the equipment is ground, but they are the head of the Senate Majority , came out and said, where did the 110 billion american dollars go . The question is what is the equipment burning and russia shows how they say that once upon a time leopards burned. Now these sad english challenger tanks are burning, everyone is waiting for the abrams. Yes, to watch how the american wonderful iron burns and with everything at the same time, with all this, uh, ukraine is not demonstrating today. Eh, real opportunities to win. It demonstrates in the person of zelensky, who went like an international earplug. So i went to ask again. Give us, then give us everything , but at the same time. We saw absolutely boorish style on the part of the ukrainian leadership. You owe us you owe us the same thing as here. Eh, zelensky began to talk from the un rostrum about what ought and who owes ukraine that sensible people. Eh, even on the other side they are for they took the head off who we brought to power, despite the fact that there is a cardboard parsley that repeats these words. It was put in his ears, but when the story began that we very much regret the withdrawal of Ukrainian Nuclear weapons. And we would really like to have it and would use it here, and now its starting to evoke some kind of melancholy and horror, because if we give it to ukraine. We see the weapons that they ask for, if we give them weapons, uh, with a high range, despite all the promises. Thats six months ago. There was a whole hysteria there we will give, but so that they dont use the same hymers to bomb russian territories, because they are afraid that they will fly back, but the fact is that russian territory today, ukraine, one way or another, is still starting to close it. While they are still like that , if they dont have a weapon that allows them to do this, they are doing it now while they are drones, but if you give it, then it is 100 that they accepted it, that is, a state that has not seen the borders of the red lines. It will hit the kremlin, so for the west for the west it is its hard because they dont want to, theyre not ready. Now there is a fullscale response from russia in relation to. The west, not ukraine , not even the west, therefore they are now starting to limit mr. Zelensky and thats all from the mosquitoes. Its in these very means. Although we are also going and giving, but on a smaller scale. Yes, buddha said very correctly when he compared ukraine to a drowning man, who pulls everyone else along with him. This is exactly the situation they are in right now. You are ukraine is sinking and dragging everyone else along with it and they plunge into this, uh, the bottom, whether they want it or not, therefore, well, plus she said that we will not supply. First , weapons in general, and then they told me, they say, the latest weapons, because now they are ordering weapons for themselves that could have been discarded from old soviet times. Everything has already been sent, cleaned from roma and europe. Yes, it has already been ground and now we are talking about what if we send modern weapons, which, firstly, cost much more. Secondly, you need to have your own supplies. They are not replenished as quickly as i would like it, but this is what is holding back western agility today, although no one, of course, will refuse. We see today that if there had been a desire on the part of the west to somehow negotiate with russia , then zelensky would have spoken out in one way or another and would have been seated at the negotiating table. But this is a stubborn position and voiced by the western speakers that peace will come when russia uses weapons and withdraws its troops from ukraine, in the territory before the ninetyfirst year, were voiced directly by the americans. Yes. Uh, when we see today, that, uh, no one is going to cancel this decree that banned zelensky. Conduct negotiations signed by himself. Eh, when no one sees any progress. There are even third parties. Like turkey, which once tried to actively promote the idea, neither turkey nor china were allowed to resolve these issues, and uh, we see that while the west is not ready for negotiations, ukraine in this case, fulfilling its will, nothing can be done. Eh, i want to say that if the need arises for negotiations, then it will be done without zelensky that is, he will be an unnecessary figure here. Now, as soon as there is a need to reconcile, zelensky will be removed one way or another, by elections not by elections. Alexey you tell me, you really believe that the anglosaxons will never stop fighting for their home. What are they doing . I told you, yes, thats what they do. Look at the same thing, poland, a very interesting scheme. We say it is overloaded there. Where in korea do they buy south korea . What is south korea . The same satellite as poland; only a selection, but on the other side American Country. Here again america is making money; in fact , america is making money again through south korea, again in poland, and all these schemes and things will work. What kind of conflicts on the perimeter of russia or on the perimeter of china will all work . Damir has changed, but it is clearly necessary to understand that the anglosaxons will not stop when the Ukrainian Army ends. Yes . I believe that indeed the americans and the british. Moreover, we will continue to pump up weapons if we run out of ukrainians here. I think theyll start putting the poles into operation is absolutely obvious, that is, they didnt start all this in order to stop it in the near future. Yes, there may be intensity somewhere. The fighting will decrease, but why is trump coming . That is, it will be possible to blame everything he comes up with. I think not. No no, and hmm, even if some republican skeptic about ukraine comes, but there is a huge vc, we saw that trump could not turn around the american holiday machine, of course, so for now you will work weapons will be supplied, and they will indeed be dosed so that ukraine will not be able to win and cause some catastrophic damage to russia, but they will give something, and at 16 they will give it, and so they will gradually gradually think that russia needs to be kept in this regime constantly the same indefinitely cannot hold the defense. They are already openly declaring that this is a wellthoughtout tactic; i dont know whether its true or not. Why, they are already waiting and simply destroying the assault troops. But russia can go forward. Maybe, but its necessary understand that she needs to prepare for this and it seems to me that i army must be this is happening right now. It seems to me more of a defensive tactic. But if we are talking about a breakthrough and a turning point, then this, probably, the army should be different, they thought that there, i dont know , 300 thousand fought before this, 300,000 were mobilized. Everyone said little, and suddenly it turned out that thousands of kindness, thousands had almost already signed up, total, uh, we can consider that a million and thats not counting the regular armies of the Russian Federation yes, but still we must understand that a major operation in the kharkov direction or in odessa is five hundred thousand people, that is, here they are, yes , if they are there, they are ready, then the likelihood of an attack is high, odessa, thats what im talking about, odessa this is probably the most important point because it is necessary to control, and the black sea is in russia, but i would like to say even more, in my opinion, the contradictions between ukraine and poland are huge inside. Eh, a big position is the creation of this dill, as they call it, not new . Yes, there is an ultraright confederation, they are already tired of ukraine but in my opinion. There is still some performance here. Here duda marovetsky is playing a little show of his voters. Yes, to take away these arguments from their critics on the right and say, but we are defending you. Well see how this all calms down. After the elections, the poles, of course, will not give up on ukraine. They have already entered there a long time ago, including in some key positions, but ukra