Hello, to belarus 1 and belarus24, the club of editors, we will discuss the most important topic of the outgoing week, i will introduce the guests who are present in our studio today, by the way, the leaders of the two largest parties in our country, but i will introduce myself later, lets start with Dmitry Alexandrovich on our good terms traditions, and we keep traditions in our club, the head of the sb belarus holding, today olga shpilevskaya, director of the Representative Office of ntrk mir in belarus. How we all live on the eve of, as it seems to me, important, let there be no banal words, i in fact, i think so, i think that everyone here considers this an important, hopefully historical event, because well , naturally, we are people who are deeply immersed in what is happening inside our state, inside our country, we deeply know that is the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly, why this meeting will hold its Congress Next week and you know, as always, we are monitoring the reaction of the collective west, which articulates its anxieties through the Information Service with a belarusian passport, i think that you understand that it works exactly like this, what some people pronounce, so to speak, who are fluent. You will have representation in this world. Ivan mikhailovich, first of all, i would like to support your idea that this body is of a strategic nature. And ill say this about the fact that when the union was being destroyed, one of the arrows, such critical arrows, was directed against planning, where to say, everything was planned, fiveyear plans, state planning, gosnap and the like, and many people believed this, that they didnt you have to plan anything, life. Will show, it develops naturally, the market decides, the market decides, at the same time the most successful countries at that time and which maintain their success are graying, im talking about the peoples republic of china, about the so called asian tigers, they have strategic plans until the fiftieth year, perhaps now plans are already being made for the longer term, as if in the usa there is no planning; of course, there is also Strategic Planning there and there are large corporations that do this. For example, a whole series others, so, our country did not follow these slogans, lets cancel planning, from the very beginning of the presidency of Alexander Grigoryevich lukashenko we began to plan, we have fiveyear plans, we have a movement from one task to another, which the belarusian people set for themselves assembly, other significant bodies of our country, so i see the task of the seventh allbelarus Peoples Assembly is that we will again. Look into the future, and not into the future for the short term, what will happen tomorrow in a month, into the future for at least years for a fiveyear period, and a truly approved concept of national security, the military doctrine of our country, i am sure that the president s report will also outline the most serious underlying trends in the development of belarusian society, this will be the basis for years and decades to come, this is what i see as the main task of the allbelarusian national assembly, Strategic Planning, especially since the world order. Russia to belarus, throughout the entire union state, to protect the country from the new yeltsin, from the new gorbachev, from some populist or some Political Force could break the country and its foundations, moreover, if someone starts talking to our opponents about democracy, then all the countries that teach us something there, they are protected, no matter who became the president of the United States of america, we understand perfectly well that globally the system of the United States of america is glorified. This does not mean that there is no arguing, but there is a strategy, heres how to arrive at this strategy, figuratively speaking, we must prevent someone from ever appearing who came and said union of russia we are leaving, we will completely exchange the countrys course there to the west, there is no need for free health care, there is no need for education, that is, what we have achieved over the years, god forbid we Start Building again later, the last thing i want to say on this topic , this is still not a guarantor, so i remember very well the meeting with the president dedicated to the thirtieth anniversary of the constitution, he said about this that in general ideal mechanisms do not exist, and he himself answered later, so dont do this, he said, do it, but how will this all work . Well see later in any case, this is a completely new stage in the development of our country, yes, there were all belarusian peoples assemblies, but they were never a constitutional body, and the powers are now completely new, more serious, why are we doing this now, we can later correct something then, time will tell how it will work, how the system of power will work, the main thing is not to destroy anything, and to follow this evolutionary path, everything is correct, you said even more, thats what the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly is the foundation on which will build further belarus, this is. The foundation of the belarus of the future, which is being laid here today, Pay Attention to the composition of the belarusian Peoples Assembly, here we are not talking about the fact that the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly will replace any of the existing, conditionally branches authorities or something else, legislators, executives and Civil Society will be represented there, everything will be evenly balanced, and this is what will give such balance, balance, calm and stability, this is what will balance between everyone so that the decisions that are made are absolute. From abroad of certain structures or individuals with the aim of overthrowing the constitutional system by nonconstitutional means, it seems to me that the participation of such people in such events should be completely excluded, if it were in the conditions in which we lived before, or in which people who have some contacts abroad behaved the same way as they do in the United States of america, in germany, yes, although its hard to imagine there. To shine, for money, of course, for money, but i would like to return to the vns, the fact is that you and i are eyewitnesses, its just difficult for us, probably for now, to understand, our view will change on this, an evolutionary change in the political system of belarus, evolutionary is a very important word, in our country a new constitutional body has appeared , whose decision is mandatory, but there is one more another function, which has not been so widely discussed, the Supreme Council can cancel the decision of any government body if it does not ensure the Stable Development of society, with the exception of the decisions of the courts, and this very is important, but i would like to say one more thing when we supported changes to the constitution in a referendum, and then for quite a long period the parliament of the previous convocation brought it into line with will depend on the perception of this body, but what can we talk about today, thanks to the president , we have passed this path of reforms without bloodshed, we have passed it calmly. Without shocks, this was ensured due to , again, one of the most important demands of the head of state, transparency, all the steps that were taken were not done under the carpet somewhere, in the public media space, the president strictly demands that people clearly participate in this process, discuss fundamental documents, if we remember the concept of national security, and elect deputies. Local levels, parliament, all these steps of openness of this new institution of the Supreme National assembly are the basis of its legitimacy in the eyes of people, and this is also very important, because of course, now there will be attempts by our deepest people to discredit, of course, they will, but we need to clearly understand that this is where we will be mortgage the future, i absolutely agree with you, but also. I absolutely support Dmitry Aleksandrovich zhuk in that what is happening now, yes, the formation of the Supreme National assembly, indeed, firstly, the evolutionary reformatting of our political system, this is very important, evolution, not revolution, revolution, as our president says, we have already had our fill, the 20th century, which was such a bloody stain in our history, showed that revolution, of course, sometimes in a certain way. Out of the interests of the individual who must be protected and support, but at the same time relying on our traditions, some kind of communitarianism, and the understanding that the public good, it should be higher than the personal good, at some point individuals should moderate their personal appetites and tighten their belts a little, but we are developing own model of belarusian statehood, political. System, absolutely unlike anything else, what is the vns . Here, as Olga Alexandrovna correctly said, firstly, this is the consolidation and representation of all branches of power at once, at the same time, the legislative authorities. Executive judicial plus the involvement of that very Civil Society, which we have been told for so long that we dont have, but now it has appeared, Political Parties and at the same time public organizations, and we have a state, lets not be shy, there is a corporatist model of construction states, here is the western american model, what is easy for them to do, they have divided their society into a large number of small groups, they work with them, these groups are represented. They are essentially manipulated, that is, the state is there, or rather, if we already say, there is not a state there, but there are politicaleconomic elites, rather even economicpolitical ones, who govern, who act based on their elite interests, yes, they are manipulating this Civil Society, which is specially atomized, fragmented, they push some people forward, push others in the opposite direction, pit them against each other. Among ourselves, we took a different path, we consolidated Civil Society, we created a large representation, trade unions this is really one big trade Union Representing all workers, but how many do you have . 80 people, women are represented in the Supreme National assembly, no, in the party in public society, there will be a party, belarusian 173. There are 173. Belarusian, not democracy, this peoples power, as you rightly say, is the quintessence of the belarusian specific model of management, leadership, based, in firstly, on collectivism, but at the same time proceeding from the values of common sense, traditionally belonging to the belarusian to the people, and acting in the interests of the whole people, and not a bunch of individuals, peoples power is democracy, you just need to call it in your own words. Yes, thats what i wanted to say, look, we just discussed everything from the point of view of the sns as a collective body, but it consists of specific delegates, but here is the phenomenon of the sns, its formation. There was a wonderful constitution, the Supreme Council of the ussr, how they were elected, these people saved the country at a certain moment, arent they all ashamed now for what they did there, starting with eightyfive, ending in ninetyone, im sure, and i know, they later admitted in an interview that many were ashamed of how they behaved then in those years, so this human factor is extremely important, we were lucky in ninetyfour , the first president ial elections were held, lukashenko was elected, and if not for him, there would already be ukraine. They approached the selection of these delegates so seriously, because a lot will depend on this human factor; at a certain historical moment, these people can both save i will give my word to Alexei Viktorovich to destroy the country like that. Washington wants, maybe wants, wants, yes, but we have our own interests, we must proceed from them, we have our own geopolitical space, the historical space in which we lived, coexisted, and we must under no circumstances lose it , therefore, all these desires to reorient belarus towards the western vector, to begin to lure it with sweet carrots, as they have been luring ukraine for many years, european integration, nato integration and everything else, we must understand very clearly that this wont happen. It is necessary to understand very clearly, yes, that this is not in the interests of belarus, has never been and will never express the interests of belarus, therefore the allbelarusian Peoples Assembly is a deterrent that will really prevent the country from changing the Foreign Policy course, plus this is what new, yes, our allbelarusian Peoples Assembly used to meet once every 5 years, now, since it will be a body, as you say correctly, for Strategic Planning, implementation of plans. Thats what i want, thats what i want to say, that there is a very good trend in the postsoviet space due to the fact that many countries have had enough of western intervention, in georgia, you see what is happening, yes, well, i really liked it, or rather i didnt like it, but i liked it because it is extremely indicative when the representative collective west hits its opponent in the face, this reminded me of the action of our socalled opposition, actually extremists in the twentieth year for that. Society, decades of work of western services, ngos, they did not pass without a trace, and there one must think that everyone is paid, many people come out sincerely, my experience of being in georgia is very limited, i was once there on a tourist trip, it says the following georgian youth almost dont speak russian, but they speak good english, well, one of the educated ones, in one of the stories that i saw literally yesterday or the day before yesterday on the internet or on television, a young girl, with a beautiful face, speaks good english. You say paid, what the heck, what does paid mean . On the territory of these states there are thousands of ngos, each employing more than one person, not two or five, i am sure of this, well, just do the math, they are there on salaries, all this is covered up by such blogs, work, but there are, for example, student youth who which has, in one word, remove all these funds, plan for 5 years, colleagues, we just need to realize that you want to cast it in metal, somewhere else, in the eyes of the west we are not partners, we are a food source for them, and that girl who looks great and speaks good english, thats the sheep they raised, which itself will go to slaughter, thats what im talking about, thats what im talking about. They openly tell the camera that when there was a revolution, the president decided to stop it, and they turned off the lights everywhere, and we took over, installed generators, printed these protest newspapers at the American Embassy for american money, went to distribute them to people there, stirred up the people, and there there were also these young revolutionaries, subrevolutionaries, as i call them, young graduates of all these soros foundations, foundations. These are specially took them to trainings in the usa, taught them how to make revolutions, then they came here, you know, what amazes most is not the fact that they do it, we know this, its how they dont. To the progress of georgia path to the eu, i can only congratulate georgia on this, this law does not correspond to the basic norms and values of the European Union, and there is official information circulating that the eu is preparing a fairly tough law that will also limit foreign influence, including in the media field, yes Dmitry Medvedev writes that the European Union is now planning to adopt its own version, and this is what he says about the law on foreign agents, even tougher than in the United States, where it has been in force since 1938. Seriously limits the childbearing of a wide range of legal individuals who represent the interests of foreign structures and figures, fines, prison, deportation, restriction of the rights of undesirable persons and organizations, the whole arsenal is at the ready and it is applied instantly, however this is considered quite normal, but we are all about we know this, and at the same time borel said a week ago that the fact that there will be no elections in ukraine is an internal matter of ukraine and this is their democracy, that is, double triple standards, they look at everything from the point of view of geopolitics. The experience of the color revolution, what i want to say, we must not forget about the socalled civilizational identity, these are the countries of the east, kyrgyzstan, uzbekistan and so on, this is central asian, and georgia, it is an orthodox country, that is, in religious terms, it may be closer to europe, but still not historically, geographically, look what happens, it turns out to be an explosive mixture, when all these ideas, false ideas, which are already. All destructive, but also fall on this eastern soil, where the traditions of what, regionalism, are strong a certain hierarchy associated with your origin, the clan to which you belong, ethnicity, maybe the group that now rules and which is on the periphery of power, this generally gives rise to completely ugly forms of political life, and no progress at all it is impossible to say that as for georgia and many. Islamic neighbors, such and such a king in such and