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Hello vadim olegovich, the institute that you head is a fairly young institution; this year it turned only 5 years old. What has already been done during this time, how the institute has helped. E housing and Communal Services. Was it possible we managed to Work Together as a communal worker and a scientist, so to speak, as a theorist and practitioners , we managed to do something and uh, if we talk about uh interaction, contact with the professional environment with uh housing and Communal Services. This also works. Well, i want to give some evidence of this, firstly, uh, they know us and we often have eh uh. And the heads of Housing Maintenance Services of water utilities. Secondly, the ministry feels us and thirdly. We are using this professional environment. In the industry, it was possible for the first time to form a Scientific Program uh, which is aimed at solving such major uh, National Economic problems that exist, if housing and Communal Services is a program that has already been approved, uh, councils by the minister, and it is in effect. Well, as for our such a modest anniversary. We currently have a small team. Yes, but im determined to work and , of course, we will grow, and, of course, we will continue to interact with the housing and Communal Services sector and work for this industry, recognized within the National Academy of sciences as a good idea of the head of state. He just said that its time. Yes, the academy of sciences supports, uh, the housing and Communal Services industry and we today. The only Scientific Organization is a research organization, therefore our task is to form a scientific expert environment. Uh, housing and Communal Services. It, like other industries, requires innovative modernization, not just technological modernization of basic processes. Replacement of equipment, namely innovative modernization, which can provide. E, good quality transition to a new level of production and service provision. Well then are you developing some . Uh, new concepts approaches. Do you give any advice or recommendations . Eh, heres something we can boast about all taken together , the concepts and strategies and approaches we are developing together with the ministry of housing and Communal Services. By the way, the strategy, scientific Innovative Development of the housing and Communal Services industry for 5 years according to uh, and other uh, on behalf of the government, there are documents and the preparation of some National Program documents relating to the interests of the industry. Well, uh, as for our developments. They are technological plan are those that we make together with industrial partners, and there are such. I hope to talk about this today, uh, and those that we are doing in the interests of, uh, individual enterprises in the industry. But if we say that in these studies there is a republican level and an industry level. Yes, for example, there for the Water Utility or for the Regional Housing and Communal Services we are doing some developments and recommendations for justifying the technique of economic calculations, then anyway this is aimed at working out some mechanisms for other enterprises. That is its the same for well, you can say the republic , thats why there is a republican level in state programs and industry. They still go for the interests of the enterprises and the industry as a whole. Yes, i just want specific examples from you. Vadim olegovich recently a pipe burst in chelyuskintsev park, four districts were deenergized for some time, and then they received rusty water and it is unknown. E , whether it is suitable for five or not, as science can help here, the first thing i want to say is e in this situation e we immediately think about, apparently, a problem for ourselves. Uh, thats a problem. Uh, increasing the speed of response and, on the one hand, to some failures in some emergency situations. Yes. And this is really a set of measures, and it also requires an application. Scientific research, on the other hand, is increasing the reliability of the corresponding pipeline systems and the work that is carried out for, installation, and so on. Therefore, here are only two points, but they certainly apply to both heat and water systems. And today these issues are on the agenda. Here you put these questions, how does the housing and Communal Services institute react, do people react locally . Well, you said, change these pipes. As soon as the practitioners respond to your requests or recommendations, we rather raise problems with the task. And we are trying to catch all the problems and tasks that exist locally in the economy so that they can somehow be classified and put into concrete terms. Problems that we are able to solve through Scientific Research and produce results that, in turn, will help to improve the mechanisms and operating procedures. Maybe and some devices themselves, lets return to the question of the results. Eh, for today. We develop not only recommendations. Although this is also important and they order it for us. These are specific practical recommendations for improving processes, but uh, we are developing technologies. In some cases, we develop technical means, uh, etc. Uh, Even Economic mechanisms that allow, uh, to increase the efficiency of an enterprise related to business processes. Well, this is the structure of the institute. Ill say a little also the technological direction and the information one. Line in terms of digitalization and economics, because this is certainly a very important aspect. It took place in moscow a couple of years ago, and our it specialists took part there, and the tasks were from their russian housing and Communal Services to make an application that could quickly respond to garbage distribution. These are all the machines that throw away garbage, yes, that is , here you and the it specialists are exactly on the same path, it seems to me that if we say, yes, the future is already a sin, that is, whether you cooperate with them. That is, are you aware of these developments . Im interested in, well, we are fellow it specialists along the way, and we are also partly it specialists ourselves. It permeates all processes of housing and Communal Services in the same way as any industry now and by and large. We are talking about electronic housing and Communal Services and today there are already serious foundations for this to come true, so we are collaborating with a number of companies and government and residents of the hightech park in order to digitize some processes in order to exclude the influence of unskilled labor in important processes. Uh, and in order to increase efficiency and reduce costs, well, regarding costs, especially during the period. Eh, lets say so before the heating season. Uh, it is known that heat supply is, well, the most expensive utility service. Uh, tariffs. Um, they go up twice a year. It may be a small amount, but still. What are scientists doing, what are they proposing to reduce the cost of these Heat Supply Services to our residential buildings. Uh, it occupies a very large share in the Energy Supply as a whole. Well, if we take three numbers and other utility resources, then heat supply, of course, is the most uh, large, capacious sector. And therefore the issue of losses is a question of ineffective structures and insulation. No, it is very important that there is a pipe that carries heat to the final consumer and some of the heat is lost hmm during delivery, roughly speaking, that is , all these heat central systems, they are, uh, its no secret that they still exist by and large. You and i, as uh, consumers, as uh, residents. We, uh, want to understand how to uh reduce the cost. Eh, this is the cost of thermal energy and so that it does not increase. Or maybe e decreased, yes, and this is possible, so you correctly said that the important task of reducing losses in pipelines has been done a lot. She is already by now today ah, well, lets say, over the past 10 years. Uh, here are the industries. Uh, pipeline losses. The cost of providing heat supply was reduced there from 18 to nine percent, twice that turns out twice practically. And this is a very large amount of money. And the work continues. Uh, we need to talk about the fact that its not everywhere. Eh, centralized heating will save us. If there is an alternative. This, of course, of course, if we talk about the city of minsk , today we have centralized heat supply , which is a good solution, because there is t4, which generates electrical energy. And it has, uh, thermal energy, which can be , well, not donated, but simply given to the residents of the megalopolis, and this is a normal, good solution, but uh, minsk is not the whole of belarus, where the design is going on, then there may be a choice in favor of decentralized Heating Systems of hybrid systems, when ah, there is the possibility of connecting to central heating and to local types well, heating, uh, boiler equipment and Renewable Energy sources, and at the same time, informationally, the control system will select the most efficient heat supply source at the moment, because , it will also take into account tariffs depending from the time of the day of the week, well, please , and other weather conditions will develop the optimal solution for a specific one. It was profitable for the owner of the house or the residential area, so today, if we talk about this provision. Here is the warmth of the warmth of housing. Eh, of course, there is a need for elaboration at the design stage and before the design stage. This is precisely the place of science and Scientific Research. Recommendations based on these studies in order to design so that, uh, the price is uh, for utilities resources are good. Well, uh, everyone had a good time, but its interesting that there is a choice. What can you do and how can you choose a local one . Uh, test, and general centralized. As you call it, the design of various objects depends on the technical specifications. This is an object and we need to know what we want from this particular object. Well , if in general we are talking about approaches to design today, uh, including communications, yes, then in this context it is interesting to have Renewable Energy sources, heat pumps. Uh, solar socalled gel water heaters are photovoltaic converters. That is, this is no longer exotic , it will be uh. Of course they are already working. Uh, they already work on our sunny days, somehow in europe they swear at these uh, where they have more daylight hours. In spain, i often saw people refuse and again return to local or centralized parts and touched on a very interesting topic. I want to say, referring to the results of specific Scientific Research, that in our country there are really few completely sunny days, but between april and september. We can provide 30 to 80 percent of our hot water supply through solar heating. These are reliable figures. Even the index is zero. We are not a hindrance. Yeah, uh, you mean the temperature . Well, from april to september. Uh, there are no such temperatures anymore, and uh, solar collectors are a special device, and they are capable of receiving direct scattered radiation. E, solar radiation and convert it into thermal energy in bottom or doublecircuit systems. That is, this is a repetition of exotic there are already a number of Companies Operating in our republic. Eh, well, these systems are already supplied on a good industrial basis. Well, we also know that your scientists have been working on the concept of a smart home, but you prefer to call it the home of the future. And what should we imagine with ourselves . This is the home of the future. And at this stage now, which of these developments can we implement . But we also use the general name smart home, but really. Uh, i prefer the name of the home of the future. And we, uh, to somehow characterize the quantity on a. Here we propose three criteria. The first is e. Energy efficiency, the second is environmental friendliness and the third is comfort for humans. Therefore, if the housing designed and built satisfies these requirements, then there is a place for using some innovations, some fashionable things. Uh, i mean, theres uh, smart stuff there. I mean, and everything that can be called smart, of course, well, any of them will work on some criterion in general. Yes, you say that we will design, there is an opportunity to design, that is, but old Housing Stock. Ours is 90 not energy efficient. That is, in the old Housing Stock, we will not be able to create a smart home in a home before the industry and science work today. And we, in terms of methodology for energyefficient buildings, will start with this, yes, uh, in relation to both existing and newly constructed ones. Uh, we have this methodology for a zeroenergy house. This is a general global trend. And we must move towards it. This does not mean that today we can achieve zero energy consumption. No, what we mean is that use. Uh, in addition to traditional sources of electricity, gas, uh, and uh, heat, which comes from uh, the central one, along with these Renewable Energy sources, which can uh, with good thermal insulation of rational use , reach zero balance, so to speak the amount of use of traditional and nontraditional energy sources. Here. And there is a zero energy house methodology. We need to move towards it. Well, the existing Housing Stock and the new one must move closer to the concept of a zeroenergy house, so in order to there is no technical problem to use renewable sources in er, operated buildings. I often use the word design, but this is very important because you know that any changes through the technical data sheet. Uh, and this also makes a lot of sense, so uh and design and , say, redevelopment and design before equipping with some kind of instrument systems. Eh, thats it. This is possible, that is, a major overhaul. Now it will not only change the entrance balconies, but also install Renewable Energy sources, but over time lets say we would like it to be the way you strive for it. Yes, but we still have water meter readings. Uh, we cant transfer it automatically, that is, we still enter readings, every month we cant do anything, for now, well, technically, theres no way to come up with this. Already obstacles. Today, such systems have already been implemented in Industrial Production and companies that produce conventional mechanical meters, but are able to equip them with systems that will transmit data, uh, without our participation, there are also new developments that, uh, are no longer will be needed to equip the existing ones, but this presupposes a program of transition to uh to uh to this for all of us, since 20 years ago. We began to switch to mechanical ones. By the way, ill repeat the technical ones. No problem , the electric meters are new, uh, i installed them recently. And they are already transmitting information not to forget about the mentality of our citizens, who periodically greet new items with hostility and do not accept them. All these people will write their testimony by hand on the phone. And we will move faster to those that automatically they do it. And now lets take a break for a moment , i remind you that we have a telegram channel. 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