Recovery, after paul ryan ocksked of the argyle s off the Republican Party. And said he is not ready to support donald j. Trump, billionaire. We read into his statement, in response to ryan, but donald trump called into the Fox News Network to flesh out his side of this spat in more details. Mr. Trump i was surprised by it. It is fine. He can do whatever he wants. It is fine. I was surprised by. Many other people were surprised. Some were really surprised, and not happy about it. I have many endorsements coming in, left and right. He is one of the only ones that was surprising. John was there more . Oh, there was more. He used his favorite social media microphone to deride the house speaker. He tweeted out. I did not inherited, i won it with millions of votes then, an hour later, he escalated his thinking even more, when Katrina Pearson went on cnn and had tough words for ryan. If he does not change his mind. If the republican speaker of the house does not come around to support the republican nominee, do you think paul ryan is fit to be speaker . Katrina no. Because this is about the party. The last two president ial cycles, we were told john mccain was a conservative. His conservative review scorecard is 37 . We were told that romney was a conservative. And he was progay adoption. Proabortion. Progay marriage. Gave us obamacare. We were told to hold our noses. The same people are now telling us, because their guy did not win, they want to hurt the party. We are a party. Paul ryan needs to be the leader right now. We are told donald trump is the presumptive nominee. He is not the nominee until 1237. Its incumbent on paul ryan to help bring unity. John mark, we are a party, too. They put out a statement, saying paul ryan and donald trump and the chairman will meet to smooth things over. More republicans have taken sides during the past 24 hours. Dick cheney said he will support the partys nominee. While jeb bush wrote on facebook this afternoon, he will not vote for either trump or Hillary Clinton in november. Lets come back to the core issue here. Not just unite or divide. But the particular of donald trump versus paul ryan. Who, do you reckon, is likely to blink first . Mark i think trump may blink first. I think reince pri ebus, they are making progress. Paul metaphor to is working hard on that. He will appeal on the fundraising front. He will probably appeal to his friend, paul rn. Paul ryan may endorse and be even more powerful. I think ryan is uncomfortable with trump, on many levels. And we will see how the meeting next week ghost. Im not sure this is going to be a smooth detente, as people are expected. John i have zero doubt. If anybody blinks, it is going to be donald trump, read that response, he seemed to be impetuous. Firing back that he is not going to support paul ryans agenda. If you think of the ways when he has decided to go out and go after people in the past, that was relatively restrained. The stuff today was relatively restrained. Katrina pearson went a little bit out of her skiis there. Trump has been modulated in terms of how intensely he has attacked. I think he wants to pivot anyway. If he is going to be blinking its on his side. Mark i agree. John i think that is where it is going to come if there is blinking. There may not be blinking. But if there is mark if you think of the resistance, he has become in a surprise position. He did not get paul ryan or george bush. He got dick cheney, symbolic. Members of congress. He did not get the governor of illinois. Here is the key to me. Trump has to prove he can win a general election. They have reservations of his behavior, his positions. Some have reservations. But if the republican nominee looks like he can beat Hillary Clinton, that will get people on board. John there is still a powerful thing here. The end of the week has come. The speaker of the house, the last republican nominee, previous republican nominee, none of them are for him at the end of this week. Not one. To me, that overshadows Everything Else in terms of party unity. Those are the biggest names. And cheney, what ever. Do you even want cheney . Mark donald trump is an independent who ran as a republican. Who has a lot of moderate positions. John he says he wants to unite the party. Mark he has smashed the establishment. On his terms. He has criticized republicans. He has criticized the bushes and the ways of washington. He is going to behave unlike anybody has behaved. This has not gone perfectly for him. He has got support from many establishment figures. And he still may get paul ryan. John its huge for trump. If his goal was unity, and that is what he says it is. He has not achieved very much. Mark he also says he doesnt need total unity. John it is not about total unity. Mark if you want to change washington and be a different candidate you are not going to get everybody. John and he should stop talking stop talking about unity. This is not a unified party. Mark as a counter to what i was just saying, not getting ryan is a big deal. He is going to be hard to get. John thank you for agreeing on that one point. The most important mark and point. Bill kristol of new york, and peter king. A lot more. But first, a quick word from our sponsors. Pres. Obama i just want to emphasize the degree to which this is a serious time. And this is a serious job. This is not entertainment. This is not a reality show. This is a contest for the presidency of the united states. And what that means is every candidate, every nominee, needs to be subject to exacting standards and genuine scrutiny. Mark that was president obama, earlier today, talking about donald trump at the white house. Joining us now is someone who does not much care for the remaining party candidates. He is calling for a thirdparty alternative. Bill kristol, hes in our washington bureau. Thank you for joining us today. Bill thanks, mark. Mark what separates republicans like dick cheney from republicans like you, in terms of willingness to stand with trump . Bill you know, i guess just a different judgment, over whether he has the temperament and judgment to be president. I dont think any of these policies are a showstopper. We are all used to the compromising on two candidates, choosing the lesser of two evils. With me, and i think this is true for mitt romney and the bushes. And ben sasse, he has been eloquent with this. I think donald trump doesnt meet the basic standards. Mark im not trying to pick a fight between you and dick cheney. Im confused, at the sociological and human level, you have great respect, i think, for dick cheneys judgment. Im confused. Is that it . You are looking at the data, and cheney says this guy has the character to be president , and you say he doesnt . How could that be . That you would reach such a fundamentally different conclusion. In general, you would be inclined to endorse the republican nominee. Bill i dont know. I would be happy to have a civilized debate about this with dick cheney. I dont expect that to happen. I would say that former elected officials, former elected officials like dick cheney, they lean more heavily, they are more presumptively likely to endorse the nominee. They have done that a lot of times. People have a new privately were not very great. I dont, i am not elected. I have not been. I dont expect to be elected. I slightly different standard in that respect. You guys captured it earlier in your backandforth. Ive have the same mental backandforth myself. Should one be surprised that bush and the most recent speaker of the house arent supporting the republican presumptive nominee . Yes. As mark was saying. As i think john was saying, on the other hand, one of you was saying, on the other hand he has picked up a lot of people through a range of senators. Mitch mcconnell and others. I think dick cheney as well. Is it more impressive this number of people who dont think well of him are endorsing and is it more impressive that you do not have the support of the former candidates . Which is pretty amazing. I would say. So anyway, one other thing. We will see how this plays out. I think it is a mixed bag. At this point. John bill, when you think of Donald Trumps temperament, what is the piece of evidence you most sees on that he has done or said that stands out most, a guy who said that acted that way should not sit in the oval office . Bill you know, temperament is too mild. I would just say character. Look at the few days before indiana. Not on my side. Endorsement of a racist. You dont say that was horrible that i didnt think of that. Like a heavyweight champion. Just saying that mike tyson is tough. The indianaf spins this conspiracy story from the National Enquirer about ted cruzs father complicit in the assassination of a president of the united states. No evidence for it. Ted cruz denies it as he has to , as he should. Donald trump says i dont know. It could be true. That level of willful disregard of all facts, of all decency, you know, for me the one thing you could ask me, if i wake up at 6 00 in the morning, it was the mocking of the disabled New York Times reporter, which is such a humanly grotesque thing to do. Then he just lies and says i didnt do it. So, its the combination of the bullying, the line, the reckless disregard of facts and prudence. To use an oldfashioned word. If you want to have a congressman who is kind of a buffoon and reckless and says things he shouldnt, fine. I mean, hes a congressman. What damage can he do to the country . A commander in chief . Mark the person you just described is dick cheney and Mitch Mcconnells candidate for president of the united states. That is position we find ourselves in. This new idea of stopping trump and stopping Hillary Clinton by finding someone who can win six states big enough to keep them from getting 270 electoral votes. We have been playing with the mass today. It seems doable. Somebody has to win six mediumsized states. Not the megastates, florida and ohio. Then virginia and north carolina. Colorado. You win those, you may be able to stop. If you could pick anyone to do that, leaving aside they would be willing, who is someone who is still constitutionally eligible, who is someone who could pull that off . With the right money . Bill the person i had conversation with, jim mattis could have run an impressive campaign. A genuine independent. He is more liberal than i am. I think there is even a Winning Strategy which is premised on a longshot obviously that the independent candidate takes off. The three are on stage. The voters see them together. This candidate mark he said no. Now that he is out, name somebody who could do it who might. Is there anybody . Bill ben sasse or mitt romney. I think mitt romney could be been sasses campaign. I think he is thinking about it or he could he the code that cochairman. Mark those are good names. We will have to talk about the romney option. We will talk to peter king about paul ryan and donald trump in just a moment. Stay tuned. We will be right back. John this next interview is on the house, or of the house. Joining us now from long island, is congressman from new yorks second district, congressman king. How are you doing . Man king good. Ng john you have a situation on your hands, in the Republican Party with donald trump. Trying to figure out whether they are going to be supportive of him or not. Give us your sense. You have been critical of him in the past. Now you have said you will support him. Congressman king i have said i would support the nominee of the party. I will endorse him and vote for him. Im not trying to make a cute distinction. I will not be campaigning for him. He has to make a more coherent foreign policy, National Security policy, and tried to tie together somehow or resolve the inconsistencies in his overall policy. I am a republican. I believe in the twoparty system. And i expect to be back in Congress Next year and i want to play a role in whats happening. I think we are at some sort of a defining moment. I mean, unless this is a oneoff aberration, this could be a turning point in the party. On almost every key issue, donald trump is differing from what had been the accepted republican policies for the last 50 or 60 years on defense, trade, on the whole issue of being more receptive to other people. Mark congressman, i know you are saying he is deviating but you said something, that he needed a more coherent trade policy. Are you saying what you know currently of his policies is that they are incoherent . Congressman king yes. I am. He is talking about how china will be our main adversary. We have to stand up to them on the economy and militarily. At the same time, he talks about withdrawing troops with korea and japan. When he ridicules the tpp, one of the main purposes was to strengthen our position these of the china so they cannot take off one by one these asian countries. So we have to show how you reconcile that. Or basically how he is talking about some form of withdrawal from the middle east saying the u. S. Is not going to be a policeman by the same time we are going to protect christians all over the middle east. These are inconsistent, incoherent policies. Mark in a general election, who be the favorite to win and why . Congressman king right now, i would say Hillary Clinton is the favorite. But going back to last summer, donald trump or marco rubio or jeb bush would have been the favorite. Listen, donald trump is defying all the rules of gravity and politics. So right now, Hillary Clinton has to be the favorite. I would not be surprised to see donald trump make a good race and actually beat her. He is going to come at her very asymmetrically. Mark why did she have to be the favorite . What makes her the favorite, right now . Congressman king just the fact that Donald Trumps unfavorables are higher. She has a united party. I know some Bernie Sanders people will leave her. But the organizational democrats will be with her. She has that government exile , that the clintons have had for years, out there working for her. She again, many more democrats than republicans. They have the large voting blocs coming for them, the africanamerican vote, the hispanic vote, which the republicans dont have. Now, donald trump can go for the reagan democrats in detroit, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio. That is why its going to be significant. Mark speaker ryan said he would support the republican nominee. There is now a de facto nominee. You said you would do that. Why shouldnt we take his position of going back on his word . Congressman king i would say first of all, he was expecting this to be resolved at the convention. Paul ryan has different responsibilities than i do. He is the de facto leader of the congressional republicans. And he wants to ensure republicans keep the majority in the house. He wants to make sure donald Trump Realizes there are a number of House Republicans who have serious differences with him. And again, i have not spoken to paul ryan. I am assuming these are his reasons and he wants to protect them. But paul ryan believes very strongly in a Strong National defense, and free trade. And he wants to find a way to get donald trump to make some accommodation with that as we go forward. John congressman, you just talked about one of the things paul ryan seems to be doing, to give some cover to your colleagues in the house. Just play sociologist. You are well in touch with your colleagues. How many of your colleagues will want to take that cover and not do what you are doing, to keep their distance from donald trump . Whether they have to repudiate him openly, or just stay clear of them for the sake of keeping their jobs . Congressman king i would say there is a good 30 or 40 have serious issues with donald trump politically. I would say they would be the moderate republicans. On the other hand, you have strong conservatives who feel definitely donald trump is not a conservative. Paul has to look out for both wings of the party. As for electoral issues, its probably, 30, 40 that will have real concerns. Mark it is friday. Im going to do a pure gimmick. Give me three adjectives you would use today to describe donald trump. Congressman king unusual, flamboyant, and an enigma. Mark three adjectives you would use to describe Hillary Clinton . Congressman king determined, strong, insecure. Which may be undermines strong. Mark donald trump got dick cheneys endorsement. Trump or bad for dick cheney . King dick cheney and donald trump, its good for him. Any endorsement is good. But it struck me, i cant imagine two more different people in my life. Forgetting the politics break just the people they are. Two different worlds. John you suggested donald trump, this moment is a crisis for the Republican Party. How serious is it . Is this the kind of crisis that could be an existential crisis and lead to the fracturing of the party as we know it . Congressman king it could result in a restructuring. I never what to from a twoparty system but this is a defining moment. When you think of all the policies we have had, goldwater, rockefeller, nixon, all of them, even when there were divisions there was much more agreedupon than now. Donald trumps key issues and key points he is making, they are arguing with what the position has been historically. They use that term establishment. All of that nonsense. The fact that these are well thoughtout policies, we have to analyze them carefully and look at them. I dont want to become an isolationist party. I dont want to put ourselves in the position where we have the same foreign policies as barack obama, but we are disguising it as america first. Mark peter king, congressman, have a great weekend. Thank you for being with us. When we come back with Donald Trumps vp summit next week and much more, after this quick break. ai a lot of people thought it was very humorous. And they also thought it was acknowledgment by trump that he recognizes it was a day important to the Hispanic Community. Andrea do you think that he could be more sensitive to not stereotyping different ethnic groups . Paul i dont think he was stereotyping an ethnic group all. It was a holiday for the Hispanic Community and i thought he thought it was all in the spirit of the holiday. Mark that was paul menar anafort,