can whip up embers, spark fires in other places spotted in different neighborhoods. so they've got a lot of work to do. you've got to commend them for what they've done so far. >> have you seen them setting backfires? >> absolutely. and i'm talking about skillfully setting these backfires. we saw some walking around with flares on their hips. so in the neighborhood you saw me on earlier, fire burns very quickly uphill. so time and time again, they would sort of measure where the fire was going and if you can imagine this, you might burn it just about 10 yards up from somebody's backyard and then the fire would go ahead burn uphill and cut off the advance of flame. they did it excellently today and i think they may also try to light a backfire here. although, if you look up on the ridge, it seems like with the water drops and all of that, they got it under control. i know there was a discussion about maybe lighting a backfire right behind this very house that you see right here. because of the fear it could