marsha clark and criminal defense attorney danny and mark c garagos. what do you think the opt is for a lesser charge? >> there is no question the jury will be charged on second degree and -- second degree murpder and manslaughter. i mean, that's a lesser included offense and the way i read the statute, it has to be done and i suspect that the government is going to request it. there is evidence to support manslaughter. so this jury will have a choice of what to convict george zimmerman on. if they convict him at all. >> marsha, that's how it goes. it's up to the jury. they can go for second-degree murder or manslaughter. it's not one or the other? >> exactly. anderson, it's very, very common. i mean, manslaughter is what's called a lesser included offense within second-degree murder and a rare case when the manslaughter instruction is not give when you have a murder charge like this and the jury makes the call.