not credible based on your observation of that person. sunny brought up the words race and then she said oh, she didn't speak well, she wasn't educated. those to me don't sound like they had anything to do with race. she injected race. that juror and the other jurors were privileged to make a subjective determination of credibility and they did that and we're hearing that for the first time, which is what a lot of us on the defense bar predicted. it doesn't have to do with race. it has to do with realilatabili. >> it sounds a little code. >> yeah. >> listen, we can't -- either it's code or it's not. we can't read into everything -- >> you said she's not relatable because she didn't read cursive. >> absolutely.