do you buy that argument? >> i -- it's all about money. and it's not just the fbi, it's many other police agencies, state and federal, local and some international police agencies that point the finger to backpage.com to help these exploiters of children to function. it's all about the money. and i really think that the public has to say, we all want freedom of press and first amendment. no one wants to sanction or censure the internet but i think these sites have to be held accountable because it's all about the money. they're not cooperating, they're not there as a nonprofit helping these law enforcement agencies, they're there because they facilitate these guys. >> it's also sickening to hear that according to law enforcement, a big sporting event like the super bowl becomes a hub for child