i never heard any other type of firearm except the shot gun. >> you know, i mean, you personally, you're friends with, you've lost a lot of friends? >> yeah, six people i personally knew in that building. i reported directly to mary knight every day about stuff. j.j. worked with me and submitted forms to me they passed on to somebody else for approval. jerry reed, i saw him every day in the halls and worked with him but not in a direct fashion. sylvia frazier, i worked with directly every day. that's the person i'm most sad about. she was the nicest person in the world. i cannot believe that man killed her. i can't believe that. and pandit, i knew him too, but i hadn't worked with him. he was one of my users when i was assistant admin in their