on that list? >> that's my belief. >> what would be the any other purpose? >> there wouldn't be any other purpose. >> why? dewinter says the numbers of dead in this va wait list scandal may be even bigger than first reported. and someone, she says, is trying to cover up the record. >> and that has been happening fairly recently? >> yes. >> that is a cover-up. >> yes. >> did you feel that the investigate hes were on to that? >> yes. >> because you told them? >> i have surrendered evidence, yes. >> if there ever was a doubt there was a secret waiting list at the phoenix va, dee winter says she is here to lay those doubts to rest. beginning early last year, she says she was told by managers to take requests for new appointments from veterans seeking care and hide them. >> what happened to those people? >> they went into a desk drawer.