operating, it is a cellular underground model, and trying to fly planes into buildings in new york city but the caliphate, they were trying to draw the people in, and get them there to have the caliphate strengthened in situ and the outer boundaries. >> and for those who are at the boundaries, there are 200 million shia muslims around the world all of whom the isis believes could be killed, because they are all, the incorrect believers. >> and they are all heretics. >> they win because of the demographic, and the end game, as graeme pointed out, for zawahiri how do you take iraq if you are outnumbered? simply the mujahadine will overwhelm them and easier when the americans leave. so it is a apocalyptic struggle. so it is being out in baghdad and damascus. sglt and the end game as you wrote, it is really armageddon,