imagine someone to come and talk to all of those at once, that's a sort list. i think what it illustrates is it completely defies the left/right divides in american politics. it's going to be fascinating tomorrow when he's talking to congress to see if people are willing to set aside their ideological filters and reflect on the totality of what he's saying or if the minute he's done the game of spin will begin? >> so much is placed on his humility, on the vehicles he travels in, his emphasis on mercy, on flexibility, not so much the rules but mercy and reaching out to people. in a nuts and bolts way, what does that mean for bishops in the united states, for pastors in the united states? >> what he's telling us very clearly with those choices, these are not photo opportunities, these are not cute symbols he's passing along. style is substance.