try to compete there or pull out a miracle in ohio? does he try to do both? we're in the chest phase of the campaign. campaigns, even though they may have a super pac, none of the guys running second, third, fourth, fifth. fifth nationally, notice a pattern there. >> from memory, john, how many republican nominees have lost in both iowa and new hampshire? >> i would also refresh your memory. in 2003 howard dean was way ahead. he didn't win. john kerry was there. rudy giuliani led for a while. you can't count governor bush out, however, the hill gets steeper almost by the day. there's no question he had a better debate and his dine nors are happy to see it.