opposed to trump -- but that's not who he's worried about, and not for the people who love trump because they're ignoring this. but that little group in the middle, you know, he wants to pull them over to his side. >> i mean nothing is really going to happen on this unless republicans in the senate peel away in some numbers. >> they won't. it's almost inconceivable to me that they will. you know, what he's done is he has progressive pushed people backwards, devolving. it's very unusual to move from one state of moral development back down to a lower state, but i would say that if you look at what the republicans are saying to defend this man, it's evidence that he has them completely in his thrall. not only voting, but literally morally in his thrall. >> tony schwartz, appreciate it. thank you. up next, adam schiff speaking out tonight saying the