litigation. i mean, there -- there's -- they could issue subpoenas and people could refuse to show up. they could cite executive privilege, couldn't they? >> um, anderson, it's true that the trump administration was kind of a master class in the obstruction of congressional investigations. but cnn's reporting is that the committee shrewdly is starting with reputable actors, the telecommunications companies, social-media companies. they're not going to play those games. congress has just reestablished its right to enforce subpoenas in the trump litigation in the supreme court, in the mcgahn litigation that we worked on in the first impeachment in the d.c. circuit. and -- um -- the courts are gonna -- if it goes to court. i think it could move more quickly and the courts are not going to tolerate the kind of game playing that we saw from donald trump. >> norm eisen, ryan nobles, appreciate it. thank you.