good evening again. the latest surges quickly and sharply receding, and that is certainly great news. the green on the map indicates declining cases, and there's a lot of it tonight. public health experts are now expressing optimism about getting back in the words of surgeon general murthy yesterday to, quote, some sense of normal. he says he feels that more so now than at any point in the outbreak. the growing optimism is also tempered by attacks on officials and experts driven by the dialled reality, and no one is immune. yesterday for that work at texas children's hospital, dr. hotez was nominated for the nobel peace prize. yesterday evening, he was attacked on fox. short time later, the vicious emails started hitting his inbox now. he joins us along with dr. leana wen, who has faced similar attacks. dr. hotez, congratulations on