relative certitude that the russians are are going to attack kyiv -- the ukrainian capital -- a city of about 3 million people. that's like the population of chicago. so, how will the russians go about doing that? >> don't know, john. but what i will say is it could happen in a series of ways. it could be just a massive artillery barrage on the city and that could kill a lot of civilians, which would be horrific. and it would be a war crime. it could be a limited assault -- and i will give you another keyword tonight to start thinking about -- the russian special operations guys that come in just like our delta force. um, it could be a maneuver -- a small maneuver toward kyiv to continue to focus the attention on a faint in the north, while putin does more action in the donbas region. i just don't know. when -- when you are talking about an operation with this many troops around, you how yourself, as a commander, or president putin as the commander in chief, to have a variety of options and he is playing this very well.