the united states in particular, but the west in general, that the united states is in a period of moral decay from within. and political dysfunctionalty. and so what their goal now is to split the european countries away from the united states and then think that the united states will devour itself with infighting between the democrats and republicans, the left wing and the right wing. i think they're counting in the long run that the united states will no longer be the power that it once was. and they will be in a position with russia to shape the international quarter in ways they design rather than the west. >> it's terrifying to hear, you know, as you said, the chinese assessment of politics in the u.s. and how those -- that polarization, in their view, will lead to the downfall of the u.s. secretary cohen, appreciate it. general clark as well. next to secretary cohen's