>> mm. this is -- >> cholesterol bomb we call it. ♪ >> remarkable lack of sentimentality about really one of the most uniquely glorious looking spaces anywhere. why don't they care? >> i agree. there's a lack of sentimentality and there's also a lack of vision, i believe, hometown vision. we have very short-term visions. mostly based on money making. >> when people look at the work you do, what do you want them to see? >> first of all, i really value the sustainability of our political culture.