and you'll see more and more people dying. >> that's right. and with torrential downpours periodically we were caught in here, if you can imagine there's no shelter for these people when the rains come storming in. now, it's interesting that andrew stephens was saying hey, we think the lights will come on at the airport at that broken city and it can be a 24-hour aid operation. but look behind me here. this c-130 philippine air force transport plane is not flying right now because the air force at this base which is the main logistical hub for moving aid to that broken city of tacloban, they are only flyinging there from dawn till dusk saying the lights haven't been turned on and they can't make these critical aid deliveries. now, when the planes come back, we've seen them met on the tarmac by ambulances carrying some of the wounded evacuees from the storm zone. i asked an air force spokesman