>> a few weeks ago you left or were fired or -- you left. let's just say that to be fair. >> okay. >> you know, indicating perhaps that it might be hurting him. now we've seen credible polls. there's the cn poll which seems to indicate it's not hurting him one bit. >> i was holding my breath. this reform thing is a movement. he also in your own poll is picking up among more conservative and blue-collared democrats. >> so it wasn't a mistake. >> no. the question is where was he then. i still believe firmly that he needed to pivot to his issue agenda. he laid out what i think is a very important and significant immigration plan which further intense fies his support for the