we welcome this move. we've never wanted to be in the format issue. having them get engaged with the networks and determine whether or not they agree with what the networks are willing to do or not do is actually a good thing for this process. so we welcome this. they understand we have an important role in terms of the logistics piece of these debates, sanction, the debates, setting the calendar, doing the logistics that make the debate happen. that's what the party's role is and should be and will continue to be. >> one of the suggestions coming out of the meeting of the families was that these rules, these suggestions, these demands, call it what you want, are not going to apply to the fox debate but all the debates going forward. i heard you say this morning it has to do with folks are happy with the fox debate. but other folks are saying from inside the meeting, this had more to do with folks being scared of roger ailes. >> there's a lot of things at play. one, you're eight days out so there's not so much that can be changed when you don't have the leeway, the runway to make it