if you look at all other governments and entities who have tried to do this, they also have failed. it's -- failure is shared among a wide range of organizations. >> you can talk about military strategy and that's obviously a huge focus in taking on -- taking on isis. i would argue this is equally an important front to change the hearts and minds so it would be -- ambassador, thanks for your time. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> of course. coming up for us, we'll have more on our breaking news. the republican national committee responding for the first time really live since ben carson joins donald trump in threatening to leave the republican party. carson upset over a private, secret meeting the rnc hosted, where talk of a brokered convention came up. don't want to miss this.