takes as president. beyond that, there's something called privilege. so communications between him and high-level officials can be basically protected on an issue-by-issue basis. but this notion that there's kind of this massive umbrella that loops in anyone that has a relationship with donald trump that basically protects them from any participation inform congressional oversight, there is no basis for that legal at all, but i think it's probably not good news for mr. trump that mick mulvaney is interested in joining this lawsuit. because congress had withdrawn the claim respect to the original parties. they had, listen, we're going to move on without this court ruling. we're just going to withdrawal our subpoenas. so mulvaney was not under -- he could have just said, listen, i'm going to sustain wahl like everyone else, make congress come forward and invoke the courts. and it looks like mulvaney and