that includes "hamilton," of course, "doubt fire," and the list goes on. it's important to remember this was only a couple months after they began to open up the theaters again after the pandemic forced a closure of about 18 months. what we're seeing here, kate, is the sort of larger effort, taking out some of these older tactics to try to slow is spread, and they're dusting these off and reapplying them not only for universities but also obviously for even the theater industry as well as they try to stay a step ahead of this winter surge that all experts seem to agree, kate, is already here. >> polo, thank you very much. joining me is dr. gene marazzo from the university of alabama in birmingham. thanks for being here, doctor. our correspondents laid out kind of perfectly how it has shifted. i'm curious how you describe what's happening right now in so
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