this to me that the white house counsel's office felt that this fake electors plan was not legally sound. nevertheless, the trump campaign went forward with the scheme anyway. speaker bowers, were you aware that fake electors had met in phoenix on december 14th and reported to cast electoral votes for president trump? >> i was not. >> when you learned that these electors had met, what did you think? >> well, i thought of the game that can shoot straight. i just thought that this is a tragic parity. >> mr. bowers, i understand as you flute from phoenix to washington yesterday you reflected on passages from personal journal kept in december 2020 when this was keeping place. your permission i was wondering if you would be willing to