this is a crazed animal that acted out and grabbed dawn maliciously, they want to prove the theorum that captivity whales makes them crazy. and that is just false. >> all whales in captivity have a bad life. they're all psychologically traumatized. so they are ticking time bombs. it's not just tilikum. >> we have to separate what happened to dawn, and as tragic as it is, no one wants to ever see it ever happen again. can seaworld create an environment where it never happens again? yes, i absolutely believe they can. what if there were no seaworld's? i can't imagine a society with the value we put in marine mammals, if those parks didn't exist. >> i'm not at all interested in having my daughter, who is 3 1/2, grow up thinking that it's normalized to have these intelligent highly evolved