interests and secure the ability to provide for the safety and security of the country. he could have gone over to your office -- he could have gone over to the aclu. >> why is the chairman of the judiciary committee in the senate, why is sensenbrenner saying we have to -- >> we have to take a quick break. i want you both to stay here. we'll pick this up in the next block. next, a final question for both of our guests. we want you at home to weigh in on today's fireback question.