one of them in burke, georgia, since these standards have gone into place, and this is according to donna martin, her test scores are up. graduation rates are up. >> that's wonderful. >> their football team that was diagnosed by the cdc with malnutrition has gone on to win the state championship. >> wonderful. >> so that is an example of it's working. and she credits these nutritional standards. >> nobody is saying they're based on sound science. >> i know you want to toss science around as though the rest of us don't believe in science and good nutrition. that's just not true. number one, nobody is saying to that school they've got to change. the question is if it's working for them, let them do it but if there is another school saying we are having to take money away from our teaching, our football team, whatever happens, then we need to find -- >> the same study led to childhood obesity. >> you want to say because it works here, it will have to work in these 100 other places. and it doesn't work that way. and stephanie, you know, that come on. >> these are nutrition standards that outline food groups and nutrients that things should be.