we'll take that on. good legal minds 0en that because it means more going forward than it does just for mcgahn. then the man everybody is talking about, we will talk to. senator john kennedy. why is he saying this stuff about ukraine? i watched your panel on it. what is his explanation? he's here to be tested. and ronan farrow. perfect timing because david pecker, the head of the enquirer, ami, he's talking to new york prosecutors. what's farrow's take on it? he's got a brand-new podcast starts tomorrow. what's that about? he'll give us an exclusive taste. great to see you tonight. thank you very much. >> the navy s.e.a.l. at the heart of a big battle between the navy secretary who was fired. he ousted secretary richard spencer is speaking out for the first time in a new television interview. what he said in just a moment.