>> let's deal with the last thing first. we're waiting on the forensics. what else could have come out of this gun and blown a big hole in somebody and killed them and hit somebody else? except some type of ammunition? >> that's it right there in a nutshell. it had to be a live round with a led projectile, in order to penetrate one body and partially penetrate another. you can't do that with a plblan. >> right. you heard that the armorer said one of the scariest things in doing the job the first time, the job right before this one, she said loading blanks was tricky. why? >> well, it's not tricky. it is to be uninitiated or the inexperienced. she is 24 years old. by law in the united states, you have to be at least 21 years old to handle firearms. and why would somebody hire somebody like this and make them