>> i think there's a link there where i think that argument falls flat or deflates, jim, is that any content a rapper is putting out or even strongly held extremist political views don't -- shouldn't be conflated with junk science that's spread and results in our icus being overrun. so, i do think americans and the courts correctly afford special protections or fidelity to medical information or the spread of junk science, as we're seeing with joe rogan. i would argue, look, if you can reverse some of steve bannon's comments from injury to insurrection, that's one thing. and obviously the courts would have to figure that out. what i think that spotify will come under pressure for is when 270 doctors say that this is a real -- that joe rogan is a menace and we have 850,000 dead americans. more americans have died from covid than all combat fatalities