what's your response to this statement, pam? >> well, you know, we have 213 pages that they don't take treating people seriously and treating people fairly. that's the opposite of the truth. the culture of the mpd is that when an officer gets on the wrong side of senior management, they get pushed out. and it's not accidental. it is coordinated. it is targeted. if you remember that movie "a few good men," the chief calls a code red and somebody is pushed out. and that has been proven over and over again. we have ten class representative plaintiffs. all of them have been retaliated against. all of them have experienced being ignored, pushed aside, treated like second class citizens. and so, you know, what is it, all ten of them are lying? i hardly think so. we have 285 years of service to this community amongst them. so what -- they are either all lying, which is not true or what they are talking about doesn't matter, which, of course, is not true. or it does matter and you don't